Guatemala General Rios Montt:Israel,Reagan,Bush,CIA,U.S.AID Complicit In Mayan Genocide
http://www.nytimes.com/roomfordebate/2013/05/19/what-guilt-does-the-us-bear-in-guatemala/guatemalan-slaughter-was-part-of-reagans-hard-line
......... genocide was indeed an option in Guatemala, supported materially and morally by Ronald Reagan’s White House. Reagan famously took a hard line in Central America, coming under strong criticism for supporting the contras in Nicaragua and financing counterinsurgency in El Salvador.
The White House was less concerned with the massacres than with their effectiveness, or with countering the bad publicity.
His administration’s actions in Guatemala are less well known, but even before his 1980 election, two retired generals, who played prominent roles in Reagan’s campaign, reportedly traveled to Central America and told Guatemalan officials that “Mr. Reagan recognizes that a good deal of dirty work has to be done.”
Once in office, Reagan, continued to supply munitions and training to the Guatemalan army, despite a ban on military aid imposed by the Carter administration (existing contracts were exempt from the ban). And economic aid continued to flow, increasing to $104 million in 1986, from $11 million in 1980, nearly all of it going to the rural western highlands, where the Mayan victims of the genocide lived.
This aid helped the Guatemalan military implement a key part of its counterinsurgency campaign: following the massacres, soldiers herded survivors into “model villages,” detention camps really, where they used food and other material supplied by the U.S. Agency for International Development to establish control.
And Reagan was consistent in his moral backing for Guatemala’s genocidaires. On Dec. 5, 1982, for instance, he met with Rios Montt in Honduras and said he was “a man of great integrity'' and "totally dedicated to democracy.”
Just 10 days before this meeting, one declassified U.S. document reveals that the State Department had been informed of a “well-founded allegation of a large-scale killing of Indian men, women and children in a remote area by the Guatemalan army.”
Other declassified documents reveal that the White House was less concerned with the massacres than with their effectiveness, or with countering the bad publicitystemming from reports of the atrocities.
The day after Reagan’s endorsement, Guatemalan soldiers arrived at a village called Dos Erres and started killing. The slaughter went on for three days and by the time it was over at least 162 people, including many children, were dead.
The day after Reagan’s endorsement, Guatemalan soldiers arrived at a village called Dos Erres and started killing. The slaughter went on for three days and by the time it was over at least 162 people, including many children, were dead.
Surely a nation so powerful that it can presume to debate the effectiveness of terror bears responsibility when terror in fact takes place.- Greg Grandin is a professor of history at New York University and a fellow at the New York Public Library's Cullman Center for Scholars and Writers. He is the author of the forthcoming "Empire of Necessity."
- Marion
- New Orleans
The U.S. Army's School of the Americas was simply a training ground for terrorists, who left its classes to wreak havoc not only upon the indigenous people of Guatemala, but throughout Latin America. The school's graduates were murderous thugs who tortured and slaughtered innocent men, women, children, babies with the impunity. A succession of American presidents and Congresses turned blind eyes to the slaughter for many, many years. And let us not forget the good ole' New York Times, whose journalists played a big role in persuading the public to overlook the genocide that was taking place. I remember many an article describing murdered civilians as those who were "caught in the crossfire," when in fact they were the intended targets of the U.S.-supported militaries in Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Argentina, Chile . . .
While one distrtaction from a real investigatioin of the massacres of Mayan people in Guatemala in the 1980s
is a recent trial of ex General Rios Montt for genocide the truth is that his guilt is in fact nothing less than an indictment and conviction of many U.S.and Israeli arms and drug traffickers using anti-communism as an excuse to profit from the above sai vices as well as to use Central America for a drug traffficking base from which to sale or exchasnge arms and in turn fund war crimes in the Middle East,particulary in Iraq and in Iran at that time.
Probably W Bush's daddy George Herbert Walker Bush deserves more 'credit' for stirring up the phony 'anti-communist' war throughout Central America than Reagan himself who probably didn't have a clue what fascist scum like Ollie North and other of GHW 'Poppy' Bush drug and arms traffficking sabateurs and terrorists were up to most of the time.
While Israel supplied arms to General Rios Montt and his ilk in Guatemala in the 1980s they also built a
Gallil military rifle factory in Guatemala for all its civil war carrying on needs and suppliued jeeps such as the one present President Molina was seen riding on during that time as well as helicopters that the U.S.government was prohibited at that time from selling or giving to them.In my opinion it would be good if ex General Rios Montt or even present President Molina or others involved in the conflict at the same time spill the beans and fill in some of the blank spots into this shameful past of attempting a final holocaust against the Mayan people.Israelis and those who support them should bare the guilt of the 'Jews' or white people of European origen who erroneously claim to be 'Jews' ond victims of holocaustr themselves,in the role of murdering and torturing and raping some of the most friendly and gentle people on the planet !
Rios Montt and other military dictators.
Image: Rios Montt with Ronald Reagan
Indeed, Ronald Reagan – by aiding, abetting, encouraging and covering up widespread human rights crimes in El Salvador, Honduras and Nicaragua as well as Guatemala – bears greater responsibility for Central America’s horrors than does Rios Montt in his bloody 17-month rule. Reagan supported Guatemala’s brutal repression both before and after Rios Montt held power, as well as during.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/ronald-reagan-accessory-to-genocide-ex-guatemalan-dictator-rios-montt-guilty-of-mayan-genocide/5334855
Ronald Reagan: Accessory to Genocide – Ex-Guatemalan Dictator Rios Montt Guilty of Mayan Genocide
On Aug. 1, 1983, National Security Council aides Oliver North and Alfonso Sapia-Bosch reported to National Security Advisor William P. Clark that his deputy Robert “Bud” McFarlane was planning to exploit his Israeli channels to secure the helicopters for Guatemala. [For more on McFarlanes's Israeli channels, see Consortiumnews.com's "How Neocons Messed Up the Mideast."]
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http://www.lacuadraonline.com/special-commentary/special-commentary-guatemalan-elections/2/
''I actually saw him,(Guatemala's current President Otto Perez Molina),in action once: he was pointing a fifty-millimeter machinegun at me from the back of an Israeli jeep on the streets of Nebaj back in the early 1980s, when I had sneaked in behind army lines. Even then he was demanding, strict, and highly disciplined with both himself and his troops — a level of discipline I most appreciated because he didn’t shoot me. Rather, he gave me a pass to the other Ixil towns of Chajul and Cotzal. But that isn’t why I’m defending him against Casas-Zamora’s argument.'' - quote from Paul Goepfert
Note that my quote from Paul Goepfert and La Cuadra above is not with the intention of defaming ex Guatemala General and current President Otto Perez Molina.It is to point out just how pervasive that the Israeli military-industrial complex has been in Latin America in general and in Guatemala in particular since its left of center government of the mid 1940's to early 1950's gave the the deciding U.N. vote in favor Israel's nationhood.Paradoxically that same left leaning government was later overthrown by the Israeli's biggest partner in war and drug trafficking crimes in Central America and elsewhere - the U.S.CIA -in the early 1950's when they also overthrough Iran's first democratically elected and popular President.I t may be in part that Guatemala's President Otto Perez Molina himself realises from his own past military experience that included a history of his colleagues and young officers revolting in 1980 against the ongoing CIA role in the Guatemalan government and its political-military and economic affairs that the very armed Israeli jeep he was commanding was paid for even then by the very same cocaine being flown to the U.S. by the CIA and Israel to finance this war and genoicide upon he Mayan people under the cyniccal guise of 'fighting communists'.And there is every reason to believe in light of CIA and Titan Corp connected planes crashing and being captured with tons of cocaine onboard as well as protected Russian Jewish mafia planes being allowed to use Guantanamo as a bae for it cocaine flights with the CIA between South America and the U.S.THAT DRUG MONEY IS STILL PAYING FOR CIA and Israeli ams traficking and terrorism to this day !No wonder so many in the Obama-Cinton regime including the fascist Homeland Security Czar Janet Napolitano herself visited President Molina in an attempt to intimidate him after he suggested legalizing drugs upon entering office ! The very armed American-Israeli jeep that Molina rode upon in Quiche in the 1980's through indigenous Mayan villageswas paid for NOT with money voted by the U.S.Congress and the President of the U.S. but by drugs,especially drugs,particulary cociane,shipped through or flown over Central America to the U.S. ghettos AND TO Wall Street and Main Street by the same Israeli-U.S. crime network that would use it to fund Iran-Contra. - Tony Ryals
http://www.lacuadraonline.com/special-commentary/special-commentary-guatemalan-elections/2/
''I actually saw him,(Guatemala's current President Otto Perez Molina),in action once: he was pointing a fifty-millimeter machinegun at me from the back of an Israeli jeep on the streets of Nebaj back in the early 1980s, when I had sneaked in behind army lines. Even then he was demanding, strict, and highly disciplined with both himself and his troops — a level of discipline I most appreciated because he didn’t shoot me. Rather, he gave me a pass to the other Ixil towns of Chajul and Cotzal. But that isn’t why I’m defending him against Casas-Zamora’s argument.'' - quote from Paul Goepfert
Note that my quote from Paul Goepfert and La Cuadra above is not with the intention of defaming ex Guatemala General and current President Otto Perez Molina.It is to point out just how pervasive that the Israeli military-industrial complex has been in Latin America in general and in Guatemala in particular since its left of center government of the mid 1940's to early 1950's gave the the deciding U.N. vote in favor Israel's nationhood.Paradoxically that same left leaning government was later overthrown by the Israeli's biggest partner in war and drug trafficking crimes in Central America and elsewhere - the U.S.CIA -in the early 1950's when they also overthrough Iran's first democratically elected and popular President.I t may be in part that Guatemala's President Otto Perez Molina himself realises from his own past military experience that included a history of his colleagues and young officers revolting in 1980 against the ongoing CIA role in the Guatemalan government and its political-military and economic affairs that the very armed Israeli jeep he was commanding was paid for even then by the very same cocaine being flown to the U.S. by the CIA and Israel to finance this war and genoicide upon he Mayan people under the cyniccal guise of 'fighting communists'.And there is every reason to believe in light of CIA and Titan Corp connected planes crashing and being captured with tons of cocaine onboard as well as protected Russian Jewish mafia planes being allowed to use Guantanamo as a bae for it cocaine flights with the CIA between South America and the U.S.THAT DRUG MONEY IS STILL PAYING FOR CIA and Israeli ams traficking and terrorism to this day !No wonder so many in the Obama-Cinton regime including the fascist Homeland Security Czar Janet Napolitano herself visited President Molina in an attempt to intimidate him after he suggested legalizing drugs upon entering office ! The very armed American-Israeli jeep that Molina rode upon in Quiche in the 1980's through indigenous Mayan villageswas paid for NOT with money voted by the U.S.Congress and the President of the U.S. but by drugs,especially drugs,particulary cociane,shipped through or flown over Central America to the U.S. ghettos AND TO Wall Street and Main Street by the same Israeli-U.S. crime network that would use it to fund Iran-Contra. - Tony Ryals
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This Israeli arms pipeline to Iran already was functioning at the time of the policy shift on July 21, 1981. Three days earlier, on July 18, an Argentine plane strayed off course and crashed (or was shot down) inside the Soviet Union exposing Israel’s secret arms shipments to Iran, which apparently had been going on for months.
months.
Robert McFarlane, Ronald Reagan’s third National Security Advisor. (Official portrait)
After the plane went down, Assistant Secretary of State for the Middle East Nicholas Veliotes tried to get to the bottom of the mysterious weapons flight. “According to the [flight] documents,” Veliotes said later in an interview with PBS Frontline, “this was chartered by Israel and it was carrying American military equipment to Iran. …
“And it was clear to me after my conversations with people on high that indeed we had agreed that the Israelis could transship to Iran some American-origin military equipment. Now this was not a covert operation in the classic sense, for which probably you could get a legal justification for it. As it stood, I believe it was the initiative of a few people [who] gave the Israelis the go-ahead. The net result was a violation of American law.”
The reason that the Israeli weapons shipments violated U.S. law was that no formal notification had been given to Congress about the transshipment of U.S. military equipment as required by the Arms Export Control Act.
But the Reagan administration was in a bind about notifying Congress and thus the American people about approving arms shipments to Iran so soon after the hostage crisis. The news would have infuriated many Americans and stoked suspicions that the Republicans had cut a deal with Iran to hold the hostages until Carter was defeated.
In checking out the Israeli flight, Veliotes also came to believe that the arrangement between Ronald Reagan’s camp and Israel regarding Iran and weapons dated back to before the 1980 election.
“It seems to have started in earnest in the period probably prior to the election of 1980, as the Israelis had identified who would become the new players in the national security area in the Reagan administration,” Veliotes said. “And I understand some contacts were made at that time.”
Q: “Between?”
Veliotes: “Between Israelis and these new players.”
One memo from Wolfowitz to McFarlane – regarding the Israeli channel on Iran – noted that “for this dialogue to be fruitful it must remain restricted to an extraordinarily small number of people.”
Though this secret conduit between the neocons and Israel may have originated before Election 1980, it continued, with some fits and starts, for years finally merging with what became known as the Iran-Contra Affair of 1985-86. In that scandal, Reagan secretly authorized the sale of U.S. anti-tank and anti-aircraft missiles to Iran through Israel.
The documents – declassified by National Archives personnel at the Reagan Presidential Library in Simi Valley, California – suggest that the Iran-Contra machinations were an outgrowth of these earlier U.S. contacts with Israel regarding arms sales to Iran dating back to 1980-81......
But the policy shift did amount to an acceptance of Israeli shipments of at least non-U.S.-origin weapons to Iran. Israeli and U.S. government sources involved in the operations have told me that those shipments continued unabated for years, totaling in the tens of billions of dollars, with some of the profits going to fund Jewish settlements in the Palestinian territories.
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I'll have to think about this. The ICTS lead is particularly interesting.
This is a better email address for me.
Peter
This is a better email address for me.
Peter
-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Dale Scott <pdscottweb@hotmail.com>
To: peterdalescott <peterdalescott@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55 pm
Subject: FW: re 'Rape in Libya'and a few other things........
Peter Dale Scott
http://www.peterdalescott.net
From: Peter Dale Scott <pdscottweb@hotmail.com>
To: peterdalescott <peterdalescott@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, Nov 22, 2011 6:55 pm
Subject: FW: re 'Rape in Libya'and a few other things........
Peter Dale Scott
http://www.peterdalescott.net
> Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2011 14:26:59 -0300
> Subject: Re: re 'Rape in Libya'and a few other things........
> From: wolfblitzzer0@gmail.com
> To: pdscottweb@hotmail.com
>
> Dear Peter,
> This is Tony Ryals again with a question.Do you think that the Ben Orr
> that you mentioned as an
> Israeli arms dealer living in Guatemala in the 1980's in ,'Cocaine
> Politics', is the same Ben Orr or "Dr. Joseph Ben Orr." and Ari
> Ben-Menashe
> who was in Arkansas and involved with Promis software spying and who
> is mentioned in the article with link below was really
> Rafael Eitan of Jonathan Pollard,etc., infamy !? I can find little to
> nothing about Ben Orr here in Guatemala and have no idea how long he
> may have
> lived here however it appears to have been at the time of major
> massacres of the Maya people in the 1980's according to your book I
> believe.
> Another Eitan was also involved in the Cyrbernaut penny stock fraud
> with Bill Clinton's US Ambassador to Moracco,Marc Ginsberg of Fox News
> but that's
> another story and another Israeli Eitan.
>
> Also below are links in english and spanish of my recent internet
> post regarding Guatemala's UN 'Permanent Representative' Gert
> Rosenthal
> and his new Security Council vote for Israel using Guatemala's
> position on Security Council to do it.I actually know Rosenthal and
> his wife who
> used to by coffee from me before moving to NY.Also his deceased
> brother Kenneth Rosenthal who was an SF attorney and died with
> Alzheimers
> had a wife in Tiburon,California who was murdered at her home there in
> 2009.I can find no connection to that death and Gert Rosenthal's
> politics
> but it was and is an unexplained mystery in its own right.
> Tony Ryals
>
> .....................
> http://austin.indymedia.org/
> Zionism,UN,Guatemala,Israel,
> Holocausts,Bishop Juan José Gerardi Conedera
> ChristianHolocaustsIslamicisra
> RosenthalUN GuatemalazionismRacial Justice
> By Tony Ryals, submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/31/2011 - 5:45pm
> This,(Guatemala's new Gert Rosenthal controlled vote in the U.N.
> Security Council),is not a vote for Guatemala or the people of
> Guatemala and even less for indigenous Mayan people of Guatemala.This
> is a vote for Israel using the name of Guatemala and controlled by the
> Zionist Gert Rosenthal, a friend of war criminal George W Bush and
> racists and fascists in control of Israel or Palestine and fascist
> elites of Europe and the United States,NATO and the Rothschild family
> and other banking and military industrial and drug trafficking elites
> .
>
>
>
> .....................
>
> http://webcache.
> /1999/101499a.html+norway+
>
> Israeli Spy Cover-up Crumbles
> By Jack Colhoun
>
> On Nov. 3, 1989, Ari Ben-Menashe was taking a shower at a friend's
> house in Los Angeles when the police arrived. They ordered the
> dripping-wet Israeli to step out of the shower.
>
> After letting Ben-Menashe dress, the police took the stunned world
> traveler into custody. He was charged with violating the U.S. Arms
> Export Control Act by trying to sell three C-130 transport planes to
> Iran with a false end-user certificate.
>
> Ben-Menashe would later describe his reaction to his arrest as
> disbelief. He considered himself a significant player in the world of
> intelligence, skipping around the globe for more than a decade,
> putting together arms deals that the Israeli government favored and
> disrupting those that Israel opposed.
>
> Several years after the visit, Inslaw president William Hamilton
> learned from an Israeli journalist that Eitan sometimes called
> himself, "Dr. Joseph Ben Orr." After checking Eitan's photo, Hamilton
> and other members of his staff recognized Eitan as their visitor.
>
> Wittingly or not, Ronald Reagan's Justice Department appeared to have
> facilitated that visit and Israel's procurement of PROMIS. In an
> ongoing federal claims case filed by Inslaw against the U.S.
> government for unauthorized use of PROMIS, a Justice Department
> official testified that he arranged for an Israeli official, called
> Ben Orr, to visit Inslaw and to receive a copy of PROMIS in May 1983.
>
> Ben Orr "was a professor in Israel and expressed interest in case
> tracking," said C. Madison Brewer, the department's project manager
> for the PROMIS contract. "I made arrangements for him to go to Inslaw
> for a demonstration. … At a later date, he made a request for PROMIS,"
> which Brewer said the Justice Department provided.
>
> I asked Thomas why he thought Eitan was going public now with these
> disclosures. Thomas replied that Eitan simply considered his
> intelligence coups of the 1980s among his greatest professional
> triumphs and wanted credit.
>
> "Rafi Eitan wants to leave a legacy that he was Israel's greatest
> spymaster since Gideon," said Thomas, referring to the Old Testament
> hero whose spying saved the Israelites from destruction. "He [Eitan]
> thinks what he created with PROMIS was the perfect climax to his
> career."
>
> In asserting his claim to Gideon-like status, Eitan also burnished the
> reputation of his understudy, Ari Ben-Menashe. It now appears that
> Ben-Menashe, who lives in Canada, did possess real information despite
> the negative judgments by Congress and much of the Washington press
> corps.
>
> Jack Colhoun, Ph.D., is an investigative reporter and a Cold War historian.
> ..........
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tony Ryals <wolfblitzzer0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Peter,
> > Thank you for taking the time to analyze it.I remember but didn't
> > follow in detail some controversy you were involved with regarding
> > 9/11 a couple of years back.I think it had to do with the Pentagon
> > attack.One of my biggest frustrations has been the ongoing cover up of
> > and for convicted money launderer Menachem Atzmon's,(in Israel for
> > taking money from the Israeli government coffers and transferring the
> > to his and Netanyahu's and Ehud Olmert's,et.al.'s Likud Party during
> > Netanyahu's first term as PM),and his Shin Bet boys' ICTS
> > International who admit responsibility themselves in SEC filings for
> > 'guarding' Logan Airport on 9/11.And according to Debka an Israeli
> > investigative site they also allowed Richard Reid 'the shoe bomber' to
> > board the flight from De Gualle with his 'shoe bomb' only one month
> > after 9/11! And pre 911 they allowed him to fly from Amsterdam's
> > Schiphol Airport to Israel to visit his alledged friends at Hamas !
> > Somehow I get the feeling that if I went to the nearest Israeli
> > Embassy and told them I wanted to fly on El Al to Israel to visit
> > friends at Hamas I wouldn't be given such red carpet treatment.
> > And you may know they are suspected in 'security' in London on 7/7/05
> > and maybe even the Spain train bombing years ago...But they were also
> > in charge of Schiphol on Christmas 2009 and allowed the Nigerian
> > Mutallab to board flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit with his
> > 'crotch bomb' that triggered or excused the TSA to issue their
> > draconian actions on Thankgiving of 2010.And I now accept that Barack
> > Obama knows all this because my indymedia post on 9/11/09 almost 4
> > months before that titled,'WTC,9/11,Osama bin Laden On FBI Unwanted
> > List,Barack Obama A Skinny Idi Amin ?',emphasized that Atzmon and and
> > ICTS were still in 'business'.(Atzmon's stock frauds against American
> > withy deceased Ezra Harel,et.al. go back decades and the SEC has
> > protected them that long !) Finally it appears likely they they had
> > 'security'
> > responsibilities at the Moscow Airport during the bombing in January
> > 2011 and it looks like Putin and Medvedev themselves covered up for
> > them there ! Chabad Lubavitch Moscow brags on their website of being
> > the 'first responders' at the Moscow bombing !
> > Putin,like the White House appears to have a friendship with Chabad
> > Lubavitchers that goes back a looong time.Apparently Medvedev does as
> > well.
> > I and others had already written about them in Iowa as the employers
> > of Guatemalan wage slaves who appear to have had a methamphetamine lab
> > right at their 'kosher' meet packing lab as well as illegal rabbis
> > from Europe and Israel and they even had a case or two of 'mad cow'
> > that could only or from feeding animals meat from brain or spinal
> > cord,i.e.-NOT 'kosher' !
> > Anyways in case you have not seen this from Christopher Bollyn,it
> > looks like Judge Alvin Hellerstein after decades of covering for them
> > and mistreating any and all 9/11 families pursuing the truth about
> > what happened to their relatives on 9/11 as enemies
> > of the state - has somehow removed all mention of ICTS from his last
> > remaining court case involvlng the the tragedy of 9/11.And Hellerstein
> > son living in Israel and I believe on occupied land appears to work
> > for a Rothschild connected company that also has
> > an ICTS connection which may explain their control of Queen Beatrix's
> > Schiphol Airport.
> >
> > http://www.bollyn.com/13039
> >
> > U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein presides over all 9/11
> > litigation. As a devoted Zionist Jew, Hellerstein has a fundamental
> > conflict of interest because the key defendant in the 9/11 trial is
> > ICTS, the Israeli company that allowed the armed terrorists to board
> > the airplanes. Hellerstein has a second blatant conflict of interest
> > in that his son Joseph is a lawyer in a law firm that represents the
> > owners of ICTS. Hellerstein has obstructed justice for the relatives
> > and the nation by preventing an open trial to determine who is truly
> > responsible for the terror attacks of 9/11.-Christopher Bollyn
> Subject: Re: re 'Rape in Libya'and a few other things........
> From: wolfblitzzer0@gmail.com
> To: pdscottweb@hotmail.com
>
> Dear Peter,
> This is Tony Ryals again with a question.Do you think that the Ben Orr
> that you mentioned as an
> Israeli arms dealer living in Guatemala in the 1980's in ,'Cocaine
> Politics', is the same Ben Orr or "Dr. Joseph Ben Orr." and Ari
> Ben-Menashe
> who was in Arkansas and involved with Promis software spying and who
> is mentioned in the article with link below was really
> Rafael Eitan of Jonathan Pollard,etc., infamy !? I can find little to
> nothing about Ben Orr here in Guatemala and have no idea how long he
> may have
> lived here however it appears to have been at the time of major
> massacres of the Maya people in the 1980's according to your book I
> believe.
> Another Eitan was also involved in the Cyrbernaut penny stock fraud
> with Bill Clinton's US Ambassador to Moracco,Marc Ginsberg of Fox News
> but that's
> another story and another Israeli Eitan.
>
> Also below are links in english and spanish of my recent internet
> post regarding Guatemala's UN 'Permanent Representative' Gert
> Rosenthal
> and his new Security Council vote for Israel using Guatemala's
> position on Security Council to do it.I actually know Rosenthal and
> his wife who
> used to by coffee from me before moving to NY.Also his deceased
> brother Kenneth Rosenthal who was an SF attorney and died with
> Alzheimers
> had a wife in Tiburon,California who was murdered at her home there in
> 2009.I can find no connection to that death and Gert Rosenthal's
> politics
> but it was and is an unexplained mystery in its own right.
> Tony Ryals
>
> .....................
> http://austin.indymedia.org/
> Zionism,UN,Guatemala,Israel,
> Holocausts,Bishop Juan José Gerardi Conedera
> ChristianHolocaustsIslamicisra
> RosenthalUN GuatemalazionismRacial Justice
> By Tony Ryals, submitted by Anonymous on Mon, 10/31/2011 - 5:45pm
> This,(Guatemala's new Gert Rosenthal controlled vote in the U.N.
> Security Council),is not a vote for Guatemala or the people of
> Guatemala and even less for indigenous Mayan people of Guatemala.This
> is a vote for Israel using the name of Guatemala and controlled by the
> Zionist Gert Rosenthal, a friend of war criminal George W Bush and
> racists and fascists in control of Israel or Palestine and fascist
> elites of Europe and the United States,NATO and the Rothschild family
> and other banking and military industrial and drug trafficking elites
> .
>
>
>
> .....................
>
> http://webcache.
> /1999/101499a.html+norway+
>
> Israeli Spy Cover-up Crumbles
> By Jack Colhoun
>
> On Nov. 3, 1989, Ari Ben-Menashe was taking a shower at a friend's
> house in Los Angeles when the police arrived. They ordered the
> dripping-wet Israeli to step out of the shower.
>
> After letting Ben-Menashe dress, the police took the stunned world
> traveler into custody. He was charged with violating the U.S. Arms
> Export Control Act by trying to sell three C-130 transport planes to
> Iran with a false end-user certificate.
>
> Ben-Menashe would later describe his reaction to his arrest as
> disbelief. He considered himself a significant player in the world of
> intelligence, skipping around the globe for more than a decade,
> putting together arms deals that the Israeli government favored and
> disrupting those that Israel opposed.
>
> Several years after the visit, Inslaw president William Hamilton
> learned from an Israeli journalist that Eitan sometimes called
> himself, "Dr. Joseph Ben Orr." After checking Eitan's photo, Hamilton
> and other members of his staff recognized Eitan as their visitor.
>
> Wittingly or not, Ronald Reagan's Justice Department appeared to have
> facilitated that visit and Israel's procurement of PROMIS. In an
> ongoing federal claims case filed by Inslaw against the U.S.
> government for unauthorized use of PROMIS, a Justice Department
> official testified that he arranged for an Israeli official, called
> Ben Orr, to visit Inslaw and to receive a copy of PROMIS in May 1983.
>
> Ben Orr "was a professor in Israel and expressed interest in case
> tracking," said C. Madison Brewer, the department's project manager
> for the PROMIS contract. "I made arrangements for him to go to Inslaw
> for a demonstration. … At a later date, he made a request for PROMIS,"
> which Brewer said the Justice Department provided.
>
> I asked Thomas why he thought Eitan was going public now with these
> disclosures. Thomas replied that Eitan simply considered his
> intelligence coups of the 1980s among his greatest professional
> triumphs and wanted credit.
>
> "Rafi Eitan wants to leave a legacy that he was Israel's greatest
> spymaster since Gideon," said Thomas, referring to the Old Testament
> hero whose spying saved the Israelites from destruction. "He [Eitan]
> thinks what he created with PROMIS was the perfect climax to his
> career."
>
> In asserting his claim to Gideon-like status, Eitan also burnished the
> reputation of his understudy, Ari Ben-Menashe. It now appears that
> Ben-Menashe, who lives in Canada, did possess real information despite
> the negative judgments by Congress and much of the Washington press
> corps.
>
> Jack Colhoun, Ph.D., is an investigative reporter and a Cold War historian.
> ..........
>
> On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 7:41 PM, Tony Ryals <wolfblitzzer0@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Peter,
> > Thank you for taking the time to analyze it.I remember but didn't
> > follow in detail some controversy you were involved with regarding
> > 9/11 a couple of years back.I think it had to do with the Pentagon
> > attack.One of my biggest frustrations has been the ongoing cover up of
> > and for convicted money launderer Menachem Atzmon's,(in Israel for
> > taking money from the Israeli government coffers and transferring the
> > to his and Netanyahu's and Ehud Olmert's,et.al.'s Likud Party during
> > Netanyahu's first term as PM),and his Shin Bet boys' ICTS
> > International who admit responsibility themselves in SEC filings for
> > 'guarding' Logan Airport on 9/11.And according to Debka an Israeli
> > investigative site they also allowed Richard Reid 'the shoe bomber' to
> > board the flight from De Gualle with his 'shoe bomb' only one month
> > after 9/11! And pre 911 they allowed him to fly from Amsterdam's
> > Schiphol Airport to Israel to visit his alledged friends at Hamas !
> > Somehow I get the feeling that if I went to the nearest Israeli
> > Embassy and told them I wanted to fly on El Al to Israel to visit
> > friends at Hamas I wouldn't be given such red carpet treatment.
> > And you may know they are suspected in 'security' in London on 7/7/05
> > and maybe even the Spain train bombing years ago...But they were also
> > in charge of Schiphol on Christmas 2009 and allowed the Nigerian
> > Mutallab to board flight 253 from Amsterdam to Detroit with his
> > 'crotch bomb' that triggered or excused the TSA to issue their
> > draconian actions on Thankgiving of 2010.And I now accept that Barack
> > Obama knows all this because my indymedia post on 9/11/09 almost 4
> > months before that titled,'WTC,9/11,Osama bin Laden On FBI Unwanted
> > List,Barack Obama A Skinny Idi Amin ?',emphasized that Atzmon and and
> > ICTS were still in 'business'.(Atzmon's stock frauds against American
> > withy deceased Ezra Harel,et.al. go back decades and the SEC has
> > protected them that long !) Finally it appears likely they they had
> > 'security'
> > responsibilities at the Moscow Airport during the bombing in January
> > 2011 and it looks like Putin and Medvedev themselves covered up for
> > them there ! Chabad Lubavitch Moscow brags on their website of being
> > the 'first responders' at the Moscow bombing !
> > Putin,like the White House appears to have a friendship with Chabad
> > Lubavitchers that goes back a looong time.Apparently Medvedev does as
> > well.
> > I and others had already written about them in Iowa as the employers
> > of Guatemalan wage slaves who appear to have had a methamphetamine lab
> > right at their 'kosher' meet packing lab as well as illegal rabbis
> > from Europe and Israel and they even had a case or two of 'mad cow'
> > that could only or from feeding animals meat from brain or spinal
> > cord,i.e.-NOT 'kosher' !
> > Anyways in case you have not seen this from Christopher Bollyn,it
> > looks like Judge Alvin Hellerstein after decades of covering for them
> > and mistreating any and all 9/11 families pursuing the truth about
> > what happened to their relatives on 9/11 as enemies
> > of the state - has somehow removed all mention of ICTS from his last
> > remaining court case involvlng the the tragedy of 9/11.And Hellerstein
> > son living in Israel and I believe on occupied land appears to work
> > for a Rothschild connected company that also has
> > an ICTS connection which may explain their control of Queen Beatrix's
> > Schiphol Airport.
> >
> > http://www.bollyn.com/13039
> >
> > U.S. District Judge Alvin K. Hellerstein presides over all 9/11
> > litigation. As a devoted Zionist Jew, Hellerstein has a fundamental
> > conflict of interest because the key defendant in the 9/11 trial is
> > ICTS, the Israeli company that allowed the armed terrorists to board
> > the airplanes. Hellerstein has a second blatant conflict of interest
> > in that his son Joseph is a lawyer in a law firm that represents the
> > owners of ICTS. Hellerstein has obstructed justice for the relatives
> > and the nation by preventing an open trial to determine who is truly
> > responsible for the terror attacks of 9/11.-Christopher Bollyn
.........................
http://porter-stansberry.blogspot.com/2012/09/gunsdrugs-and-thugsisraelfalsely_28.html
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