It is a little bit of a walk down memory lane to see this interview from the UK Guardian with co-founder Apple Steve Wozniak because I knew the brothers of his first and for all I know only wife Candy Clark
who I met around 1970 at the Clark parents' house when Peter Clark had his brief flirtation with alternative energy and alternative communities and Peter's father was kind enough to fund the purchase of a house at 1545 Dwight Way in Berkeley where we set up a sort of commune or collective in the day or the daze as the case may be.But it was one of the best times of my life.
The title may be misleading because I am not saying Wozniak is at fault for the theft of my email by Yahoo
and its probable transfer to U.S.government authorities.In fact I have never even used an Apple computer although they have of course a cult like following.And Im on his side in supporting Snowden although who knows what all his deeper motives may be.I'd like to hear more about CIA and U.S.government connected financial fraud that he hinted at when he briefly touched on the subject of CIA operating in Switzerland compromising a banker in order to blackmail him.This could only be a case of CIA agents using their position for financial gain fort themselves or their masters.
Below are only a few links to posts I made complaining about stock fraud used for money laundering by the CIA and Israeli government money launderers against American investors over the post 9/11 years.Many of these frauds claim and spread the rumor and lie that the stocks have been 'naked shorted' by some unknown person or entity or by a broker or 'market maker' such as Charles Schwab or Refco,etc. The spoiled Geico billionaire son Patrick Byrne claims it's a 'Sith Lord' and the SEC and its ex Chair Chris Cox lied about all the financial stocks that collpsed in 2008 including Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac,(and EVEN Goldman Sachs shares,etc.),collapsed due to 'naked short selling' ,a term made up by Steve Forbes' pal and National Taxpayers Union founder James Dale Davidson who Patrick Byrne and the others are obviously alligned with.
If you get too close to the truth and post it on the internet you'll get death threats such as those I've received from a Mr.Bud Burrell who is part of Patrick Byrne's NCANS or National Coalition Against Naked Shorting that replaced James Davidson's NAANSS or National Association Against Naked Short Selling in 2005.My former broker Charles Schwab has been part of this massive stock share money laundering fraud
and sold its MASH market maker to UBS shortly after 911 in order to allow its clients clients to operate its U.S.penny stock frauds and manipulations with and through Swiss banks and connected offshore sites.
Anyway Yahoo! closed my email account and stole my email as well as removed all my warning against Patrick Byrne's Overstock.com and Novastar Finanancial manipulations and illegal pump and activities on Yahoo! message boards throiughout the post 9/11 era as well as my posts and warnings on the CIA's Yahoo! 'message boards' used to promote its SRA International stock as well as its Ionatron fraud that claimed to hsave a cure for IEDS or Improvised Explosive Devices killing and maiming so many American soldiers during the Iraq war and occupation.This is the kind of thing that makes you an 'enemy' of the U.S. fascists who have taken over the U.S.government or who have always had it undr their control while claiming we live in a 'democracy'.Ha.
And yes Steve Wozniak it could not have been done without the use and control of computers and the internet that you helped develop and yes Steve Wozniak,you almost quote me without knowing it in my communication to Yahoo! around 2005 when I emailed the anonymous crooks running the Yahoo! email 'service' when they stole my email accounts time and again for warning about stock frauds being promoted on their website, when you say as you recently did,'In the old days of mailing letters, you licked it, and when you got an envelope that was still sealed, nobody had seen it; you had private communication. Now they say, because it's email, it cannot be private; anyone can listen." Yes I really believed that just as we always knew about postal mail 'in the old days',that the Yahoo! thieves were in big trouble for stealing my mail and giving it to uknown parties that they were in big trouble for violating federal law regarding a person's personal mail.
As it turned out the joke was on me.
Charles Schwab,CIA,In-Q-Tel,Amit Yoran,SRA International, Mantas ...
www.indybay.org/newsitems/2006/02/13/18021571.php
Feb 13, 2006 – I hope your presence there prevents many a penny stock and pump and ... as appears to be the case with Ionatron, a CIA pump and dump that ... And what about ncans.net,who are they are(besides Patrick Byrne of Overstock.com) and ... underworld rules the internet stock message boards and Yahoo and ...CIA offshoot taps former U.S. cybersecurity chief - CNET News
news.cnet.com/CIA-offshoot-taps...U.S.../2110-7350_3-6018575.html
Jan 4, 2006 – can't Mantas' AML software producers,SRA International, and its CIA investors prevent its own shares and U.S.penny stocks in general from
www.stockwatch.com/newsit/newsit_newsit.aspx?bid=U...U...
Mar 6, 2009 – Did you see that Citibank is a penny stock and GM is talking bankruptcy ..... Now stockwatch is e-blasting the negitive Overstock.com hit piece to all of their email list. .... dumped on Yahoo really been 'naked shorted' as you claimed-lyed ..... Endovasc,Biophan and SRA International that besides being a CIA ...The Naked Shorts Get Some Clothes « blog maverick
blogmaverick.com/2005/04/16/the-naked-shorts-get-some-clothes/
Apr 16, 2005 – If enough people are selling Overstock.com shares, it could create a ... of the '
RoscoeCam Live Forum!: Company Tanks because Bosses Gamble ...
meets George Tenet in New Orleans,touts penny stock for C .... lots of phones are ringing and you can hear the chimes from people getting email! ..... with Patrick Byne of Overstock.com at this very moment on Yahoo's NFI and ...
www.network54.com/.../Company+Tanks+because+Bosses+Gamble!
Jan 2, 2006 - 6 posts
probably due to the fact of the CIA's In-Q-Tel investments in SRA ... Agora Inc.
World | SEC Commissioner Christopher Cox vows to bring James ...
com ...
https://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/regions/world/2006/03/335203.html
Jun 3, 2006 – The CIA and mafia claims I make may seem far out until you do your ... international in-q-tel' and then a google search 'sra international sec'. ... And there are many more scammy penny stock websites including Yahoo and ragingbull that ... All of this is in reponse to and a knee jerk reaction to Overstock.
U.S. SEC,Christopher Cox,Hillary Clinton and Barbara Boxer Aid ...
www.indymedia.org.nz/article/.../us-secchristopher-coxhillary-clinton-an...
May 23, 2006 – Not even that Mormon penny stock touter and fraud, Senator Bob Bennett of ... head of his Agora Inc.' s ' Strategic Investment' penny stock mail fraud ops to do it . ... immunity to run stock scams and make death threats on Yahoo .... in aiding and abetting the CIA' s Ionatron penny stock fraud and illegal pump ...http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/21/wozniak-guilty-nsa-surveillance-snowden
Steve Wozniak: 'I felt about Edward Snowden the way I felt about Daniel Ellsberg'
Apple co-founder says he admires Edward Snowden as much as Pentagon Papers leaker Daniel Ellsberg
The Apple co-founder Steve Wozniak has backed NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden and admitted he feels "a little bit guilty" that new technologies had introduced new ways for governments to monitor people.
"I felt about Edward Snowden the same way I felt about Daniel Ellsberg, who changed my life, who taught me a lot," he said.
Speaking to Piers Morgan on CNN he said he was not the kind of person to "just take sides in the world – 'I'm always against anything government, any three letter agency,' or 'I'm for them'."
But he added: "Read the facts: it's government of, by and for the people. We own the government; we are the ones who pay for it and then we discover something that our money is being used for – that just can't be, that level of crime."
When Morgan suggested the government would not be able to keep such a close eye on citizens without the work of innovators like him, Wozniak acknowledged: "I actually feel a little guilty about that – but not totally. We created the computers to free the people up, give them instant communication anywhere in the world; any thought you had, you could share freely. That it was going to overcome a lot of the government restrictions.
"We didn't realise that in the digital world there were a lot of ways to use the digital technology to control us, to snoop on us, to make things possible that weren't. In the old days of mailing letters, you licked it, and when you got an envelope that was still sealed, nobody had seen it; you had private communication. Now they say, because it's email, it cannot be private; anyone can listen."
Asked about US surveillance programmes in an earlier interview with a Spanish technology news site, FayerWayer, Wozniak said: "All these things about the constitution, that made us so good as people – they are kind of nothing.
"They are all dissolved with the Patriot Act. There are all these laws that just say 'we can secretly call anything terrorism and do anything we want, without the rights of courts to get in and say you are doing wrong things'. There's not even a free open court any more. Read the constitution. I don't know how this stuff happened. It's so clear what the constitution says."
He said he had been brought up to believe that "communist Russia was so bad because they followed their people, they snooped on them, they arrested them, they put them in secret prisons, they disappeared them – these kinds of things were part of Russia. We are getting more and more like that."
The latest revelations about the NSA, show that judges have approved orders allowing it to make use of information "inadvertently" collected from domestic US communications without a warrant, according to top secret documents submitted to the court that oversees surveillance by US intelligence agencies.
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http://www.phillyimc.org/en/node/42943
Yahoo protects stock mafia's death threats
The paradox for me is that I am an avid 'free speecher' but I draw the line at death threats and fraud.The example I site is http://www.ncans.net, whose only known address is a lap dance club called Cheetah Club in Las Vegas whose management has been convicted of bribing San Diego city council.
Carol Remond of Wall Street Journal brought this fact up of the only known address with 'Bob O'brien' of ncans.net and nfi.net in an email interview.
And it is the only known strip club to be investigated under the Patriot Act.And the fact that although it has a sectretive Wells Fargo account in San Diego,it placed an ad costing over $100,000 in the Washington Post on February 8 addressing Mr.W Bush about the 'dangers' of 'naked short selling' to investing SS funds in the stock market.What the SEC should have known and did but still did nothing about,as this sccam continues to go down,is that it was a tactic used by a group called 'NAANSS' IN 2002 TO MASK THE ILLEGAL DUMPING OF PENNY STOCK SHARES - INCLUDING FROM A CHARLES SCHWAB ACCOUNT OR ACCOUNTS,AS I PREVIOUSLY DOCUMENTED ON INDYBAY, AND ALSO,POSSIBLY TO LAUNDER MONEY !!! America,what has become of you ?
I have reason to believe 'Bob O'Brien' OF NCANS.NET,is either James Dale Davidson or working for him or with him.The only known address for this mafiosi fraud which may have a Beltway origen and thus is protected by Washington,D.C. insiders, is a lap dance club called Cheetah Club in Las Vegas.The Cheetah Club's management has been convicted of bribing San Diego city council.And it is the only known strip club to be investigated under the Patriot Act.As Jeff Matthews says on his bog site,'I'm not making this up'.The Davidson connection would go a long way to explaining his bravery in
addressing a fraudulent ad-letter to Bush in the Washington Post in this post 911 era without fear of a full scale investigation.As founder of National Taxpayers Union he would know Senator Bennett just as Patrick Byrne does,as well as Norquist who has been important in the NTU and Steve Forbes etc.His
co-author for many of his second rate books is the Lord Rees-Mogg formerly of the London Financial Times,So Rupert Murdoch connections too,to some extent. Both James Dale Davidson and the Lord Rees-Mogg played roles in creating the Clinton 'scandals' but that's another story.
Below are messages or threats against me that were taken from Yahoo's NFI and OSTK message boards and were reposted on offshorebusiness.com for the record just as I do again here.This also includes my email to Yahoo who removed my messages and deleted my email account all because I was warning others(and the SEC) a scam was going down by an organized criminal gang on Yahoo paid for in part by the spoiled Stanford educated son of Jack Byrne of Geico insurance fame,Patrick Byrne of Overstock.com. Together they put over $1 million into anti-John Edwards campaign propaganda and to fund Swift Boat Vets Againt Kerry.
What is worse is that Patrick Byrne admits staight out he funds ncans.net and it is a fact unidentified ncans members work behind many aliases on Yahoo in general and the NFI and OSTK board fraudulently claiming the companies are being shorted with non-existent shares,i.e.-'naked shorted' !! They futher try and trick board members to take their shares out of their accounts and buy paper certificates.Yahoo knows they are hosting an organized securities fraud,including for the spoiled son of a billionaire who sponsers it to illegally promote his own near worthless stock !!!!
Unfortunately threats to me are not taken as seriously by Wall Street Journal or Barrons or Reuters as are threats to well known hedge fund managers and the SEC at best doesn't care.Actually threats to MarcCohodes of Marin county did make Reuters news as well as Barrons whose editor,William Alpert, contacted me to enquire why I believe James Dale Davidson of National Taxpayers Union,'NAANSS' or the 'National Association Against Naked Short Selling' and the right wing http://www.newsmax.com is behind it. You will note from the aliases addressing me on Yahoo they know my name and feel they know my whereabouts(Guatemala).You will also note Charles Schwab could have stopped this nightmare years ago because they provided an illegal pump and dump account to Endovasc of Montgomery,Texas that promoted a Stanford University patent that Davidson also promoted in his Agora Publications mail fraud and cyberfraud operation.So,in many ways,Stanford University and its professors, Heeschen and Cooke,benefitted and profited from an ilegal pump and dump of worthless stock and post 911 money laundering in Kuala Lumpur !!
Actually I feel Yahoo and the SEC and the FBI and the DOJ owe it to both Marc Cohodes and myself to reveal who posts our names on Yahoo with gratuitous threats to our lives or relatives in the case of Marc Cohodes.
Tony Ryals
These are posts from Yahoo's NFI 'message board' that are also available on http://www.offshorebusiness.com message board that includes my email to Yahoo after they deleted my account to please the fraudsters and did nothing about their death threats.:
The threats of 'Bob O'Brien' and his ncans.net mafia.
I'm posting my communication with Yahoo who deleted my account,(all email and posts), again to appease the 'ncans mafia' who dominate the Yahoo NFI and OSTK boards there.
I'm posting the two threatening messages from the ncans.net gang,(ncansd3 is or was 'Bob O'Brien),in part because I fear Yahoo will,at most, delete those messages to protect the guilty.As I aleady mentioned here previously,on the thread relating to removal of the diligizer board and all its voluminous research contributed by posters,even Eliot Spitzer's spitzer2006 has removed all of my posts that was titled 'ss funds in manipulated markets' and other discussions started by individuals there.
This included very interesting chatter from the Yahoo NFI message board including the 'Tony reveals' post immediately below.
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=8729314&tid=...
Re: Tony Reveals...
by: ncansd3
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 07/04/05 11:35 pm
Msg: 319891 of 342767
Guatemala? Tikal is OK. The rest of the place is a mosquito infested
hellhole where you can have someone taken out for $500 bucks to the
right cabby. Come to think of it, Tikal has a ton of mosquitos, too.
And it's rainy season.
Guatemala is the punchline for jolks in Honduras and El Salvador. No
offense to Guatemalans, who are generally very simpatico and genuine.
And you don't even want to see the winner of a machete fight.
Enjoy the Dengue and Malaria and Typhoid and Yellow Fever, Tony. Good
move. Nice choices. Bravo.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 319884 by short_bag_holder
Type your feedback here:
Dear Yahoo,
This is hopefully more than a rebuttal
to whoever had my account deleted on
Yahoo for 'TOS'.This is hopefully a
wake up call to what could become news
regarding Yahoo itself in allowing
organized tout gangs,organised crime
in my opinion, to take over certain
message boards and threaten the safety
of whoever might have a critical or
discouraging word of the stocks they
mindlessly tout on Yahoo.
In case you haven't noticed you have
not ONE or TWO or THREE individuals
who tout OSTK and NFI but an organized
gang! Sometimes when they don't like
journalists or people who may be
investigating their ncans.net account
in San Diego for instance,as was the
case of one journalist in June,you
heard talk of 'guns' on Yahoo.Well,
maybe you haven't.You seem to avoid
wanting to know.
The leader alias as you may know is
the alias 'Bob O'Brien' of ncans.net
and nfi-info-net who was
dirtydirtydeeds and who became
notorious in national news for subtle
life threats to and the releasing of
the addresses of Marc Cohodes and family
of Rocker hedge fund in Marin on
Yahoo NFI message board.This was
covered by both Reuters and Barrons !!!
And yet with no problem or notice by
Yahoo he returned immediately to lead
his organized band on Yahoo
as 'ncansd3'.
Now he is 'easter_bunny_d3 !!The gang
of penny touters organise around him
and hhill,who I believe is Howard Hill
a former professional in Deutsche Bank
and finance community and one mhelburn
or Mary Campbell Helburn.
She has suggested that SEC employees
should be 'axed' someone should come
in with a 'scythe' and cut off heads
and that in Japan these SEC employees
would be forced to commit mass
suicide. She also appeared in a video
which you can find on ncans.net
and pretended to have lost over half
her handicapped nephew's money in
penny stocks due to 'NAKED SHORTING'!
At other times the gang DOES name SEC
names,particularly Annette Nazareth
for some reason.One of the gang,some
months ago,claimed to know Jesse
Eisinger's(of WSJ) parents but are
VERY critical of him and mentioned in
passing about some human body floating
in a river near his parents home !!
This group is not a bunch of 'mom and
pop' investors as they originally
claimed and Yahoo would have to live
in a vacuum not to know they were
funded to the tune of $10,000's of
thousands of dollars by OSTK's Byrne
alone whose stock they are touting on
Yahoo at this very moment while
probably threatening anyone who isn't
saying 'to da moon' and pretending it
is only $40+ a share due to naked
shorting !!
So excuse me if I'm wrong but
basically what we have here is a gang
of professional stock touters on Yahoo
who have been documented to threaten
others even in national and
international news reports.One of the
two main stocks they tout on Yahoo as
a victim of naked shorting is Patrick Byrne's
OSTK who we all know has given substantial
donations,if that's the right word,to
fund them !!! Even a $100,000+ ad was
taken out by this gang who occupy your
NFI and OSTK message boards in the
Washington Post on February 8 !! It is
my belief that the ncans gang who tout
with impunity on Yahoo is related to a
now defunct website called 'naanss'and
possibly a James Dale Davidson.You can
do a google search of that.
True or not it is the same scam of
claiming naked shorting is occuring in
certain stocks, mainly penny
stocks,and that investors should
buy 'certs'.This is who you are
protecting and coddling on Yahoo
whether you realise it or not.
So what is clear is I NEVER threaten
anyone on Yahoo or anywhere else.Sure
I poke fun a what appears an obvious
scam to me,the same scam a penny
company associated with 'naanss' used
in 2002 to rip me off 100%.And yes I
do try to warn other investors who may
fall victim to them believing OSTK or
NFI is victim of naked shorting and
the price will be over $200 A SHARE AS
THEY HAVE CLAIMED FOR NFI AND TO
BUY 'CERTS' WHICH ALLOWS INSIDERS TO
THE SCAM TO TIE UP THOSE SHARES AS
THEY DUMP OR MANIPULATE IMHO.
But it is the ncans gang you protect
who got me a 'tos' and all my email
deleted who threaten others and lie
about stocks to lure suckers,not me.
Below are a couple of examples of
these threats to me,Tony Ryals,as well
as links to self published articles
about this fraud,in my opinion,that
Yahoo,so far,aids and abets for
whatever reason.My original account
WAS Tony Ryals until the Yahoo tout
syndicate who threaten my life as you
can see below and know where I live
had you remove my original account AND
ALL MY IMPORTANT EMAIL FOR THEIR
PLEASURE !!!
They have more aliases than I can keep
up with and make more everyday on
Yahoo,they are organised securities
fraud and you are their main website
to con and lure to ncans.net,nfi-
info.net,buyin.net,etc., etc.,
Sure I would like my account back and
to have a chance to warn others about
them if you continue to alow their
organized crime on Yahoo.Otherwise I
do believe Yahoo should be held
responsible for anyone who loses money
at least on NFI or OSTK by 'advise'
they receive from this pro tout gang
on Yahoo.I've tried to warn but you
allow them to delete my account and my
warnings.You allow them to threaten
journalists and individuals who are
critical of their tactics.And in doing
so Yahoo has allied itself with what I
feel will be exposed as a massive
stock fraud in the end,organized
criminal activity on Yahoo.
So my name is Tony Ryals the threats
you see below to my life on Yahoo are
to me.They know who I am because I do
not play games or hide my identity or
hesitate to denounce their securities
fraud on Yahoo or anywhere else.These
scum you host,for stock fraud
promotion in my opinion,even use my
name,ctonyryals,as one of their Yahoo
aliases !!! And they've used so many
variations of my original Yahoo
alias,biodog0,I can't even keep up !!!
So look at the threats below about
coming to Guatemala to teach me a
lesson or about getting me killed for
$500 in Guatemala.Do you all think
that's cute ? I have reason to believe
they may be able to manipulate Yahoo
message board or have uploaded
something of interest from
a 'heroic.org' English or Russian
server but I'm not sure.I can send you
what I have though so you can see if
what they or someone uploaded to Yahoo
from that site was legit.
Although this is long,the issues are
serious,and I await your reply to know
if I should simply put this
communication and the life threats you
seem to encourage into the public
domain of the http://www internet for the
world to see.
Sincerely
Tony Ryals
RE Jesse Eisinger,WSJ,and ncans.net
phones,donation, and boat named "James
Davidson" :
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.
mm=FN&board=8729314&tid=nfi&sid=8729314
&action=m&mid=310727
Tony Reveals,ncansd3 subtle threats :
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.
mm=FN&action=m&board=8729314&tid=nfi&si
d=8729314&mid=319891
Tony Ryals is playing with fire
"by: ftd_is_a_criminal_offense "
"Long-Term Sentiment: Buy 08/29/05 "
12:12 am
"Msg: 339114 of 340847 "
Tony said
"I do know you are a stock fraud"
Tony,
You seem to be going over the line.
That type degradation of a man's honor
is not looked upon favorably by the US
court system.
Your claim of no assets does not give
you the right to use a public message
board to make claims that you know are
false.
Your current walk on the wild side
should have educated you to the fact
that some folks are not as relaxed and
honorable as Mr. Hill.
Please be more careful in your
unfounded accusations - and good luck
in any forthcoming prison time.
Naked shorting is the name.
RICO is the game.
"Posted as a reply to: Msg 339045 by "
ncansisscam
"Subj: Re: Tony Ryals is playing with "
fire
"By: easter_bunny_d3 "
"Date : 08/29/05 12:17 am "
Tony is posting from Guatemala, which
he thinks insulates him from most
everything.
It kind of does, the only problem is
that you have to live in Guatemala.
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=8729314&tid=...
"Subj: Re: Tony Ryals is playing with "
fire
"By: ftd_is_a_criminal_offense "
"Date: 08/29/05 12:39 am "
Easter Bunny,
You are so right.
Tony thinks that moving to an overseas
address will insulate him from
honorable folks.
I wonder what Tony would do if a
retired stockholder of any of the
companies that he is currently
slamming paid him a personal visit?
You know all longs don't necessarily
live in the US. Most retirees have
plenty of time on their hands and
might enjoy educating Tony to the
benefits of owning OSTK, NFI, and SCH.
Tony is also very free in calling
people "frauds".
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?
action=m&board=7081280&tid=sch&mid=7061
0&sid=70812 80
A quick check of Yahoo's message
boards shows 957 posts by the infamous
Tony. I have still not found a message
of substance.
Oh well, he has plenty of time on his
hands now. We can only hope that his
free time on the outside is replaced
by free time with Bubba soon.
Naked shorting is the name
RICO is the game
...............................................................
Does Texas Attorney O'Quinn aid penny
stock fraud ?
http://cvilleindymedia.org/newswire.php
?story_id=1788
To SEC:JAMES ANGEL,GEORGETOWN AIDS
PENNY STOCK FRAUD :
http://richmond.indymedia.org/newswire/
display/10927/index.php
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To: wolfblitzzer0@lycos.com
Subject: Yahoo! Administrative Notice
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 09:09:06 -0700 (PDT)
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http://www.offshorebusiness.com/message_board_detail.asp?id=16135&page=1
A Dozen Answers From Dr. Byrne
by Tony Ryals Monday October 03, 2005 at 02:41 PM
endoscam@lycos.com
I add to our story on NCANS.NET, for the record,
this list of questions with answers from Utah's and Overstock.com's Patrick Byrne.Dr.Byrne has used the naked short claim to infer at least that his OSTK or Overstock.com stock is being 'naked shorted' by unknown people or a 'market maker' ,I guess.Market makers are the only people who can legally naked short or sell shares that are not immediatley available on the open market for resale to a purchaser.Ideally these market makers can then purchase the shares they sold to a retail customer on the open market.
However after having been convinced I was a victim of naked short selling in the past by the fraudulent Endovasc 'biotech' company out of Texas and attorney John O'Quinn,(now representing Patrick Byrne),and by James Dale Davidson who orchestrated the fraudulent promotion and dumping of millions of Endovasc shares,I have come to the conclusion, of more rational minds, that 'naked shorting' is not a grave problem to market stability.The earnings of the company are.
And the naked shorting claim has been used for a massive fraud in penny stocks and because the SEC did nothing it has moved up to higher market value
stocks,although still poor profit generating stocks such as Patrick Byrne's OSTK.
While Byrne at other times strongly denies OSTK is being 'naked shorted' but instead that shares are being coventionally and legally shorted by hedge funds and or private individuals,he funds NCANS and the unidentified Bob O'Brien who makes threats on Yahoo against a Rocker Partners hedge fund related individual,Marc Cohodes,as well as to myself ,whose only interest is in exposing those behind NCANS for the massive penny stock fraud I believe they are part of.
And Bob O'Brien's NCANS only function is to make
generally false claims of naked shorting for the stocks they promote,including Overstock.com.Dr. Patrick Byrne just sits back and lets this happen AND he pays them to do it !!
Aside from the fraud I suspect and lies and misinformation about 'naked shorting' being propogated by 'Bob O'Brien' and NCANS on
Yahoo and ragingbull.com etc.and using those sites to direct traffic to the ncans.net website,it goes even further off the deep end because Dr.Byrne also would have us believe in a 'Sith Lord' who is behind
this conspiracy against him and Overstock.com to bring it down !
Since fomenting this myth, ncans.net followers or
insiders to the scam began making fly by night websites devoted to Michael Milken and others as the 'Sith Lord' of Dr.Byrne's fanasy or nightmare. Others have been proposed but the accusation against Milken became so heated that Milken was driven to make a public denial.No he is not Patrick Byrne's 'Sith Lord'.
Because this is Utah, the home of Overstockcom and Byrne and Senator Bennett who appears to back him in his assertions of a 'naked shorting' conspiracy,and these are Dr.Byrne's public statements, I add them to my investigation here.It was Seth Jason of Motely Fool as you can see below who proposed them after he did the only article so far to officially mention the Beltway's James Dale Davidson as the 'brains' behind NCANS,whose only address so far appears to be Cheetah Club,a striptease joint in Las Vegas whose
San Diego branch was found guilty of bribing city council members.It is the only striptease joint,, to my knowledge,to have been investigated by the FBI using the Patriot Act for whatever reasons.
This interrogatory by Seth Jason was most important to me for a few reasons.Dr.Byrne for the first time mentions James Dale Davidson but only to deny he is the unidentified Bob O'Brien of NCANS.He also for the first time acknowledges he knows who Bob O'Brien really is.
Although he had donated 10's of thousands of dollars to the ad warning about naked shorting in the Washington Post on February 8,he had ,until then, denied knowing who he was working with !! Second because Dr.Byrne admits he funds Bob O'Brien and is thus,in many ways,funding 'O'Brien's' internet threats and fraudulent lies regarding 'naked shorting' and O'Brien's and NCANS promotion of many penny stocks claiming to be victims of 'naked shorting' that in truth appear to be illegal pump and dump scams.
You will find the statements immediately below from Dr.Byrne near the bottom of the interview but as they are the most significant to me I place them here at the top.:
Seth Jason: There's been a lot of controversy regarding your relationship with "Bob O'Brien," a man who hides behind a pseudonym ...
Patrick Byrne: Not to me. I know who he is (and he is not James Davidson). But the test of any theory (or theorist) is its ability to make accurate predictions. Bob made far-out but, in the end, accurate predictions about journalists, David Rocker, and our trading. Why get hung up on personalities?
... and issues vicious, unsupported attacks against anyone who disagrees with him.
A. False. O'Brien's vicious attacks are generally heavily supported.
Yes, his writing is acerbic (and he is more sarcastic in person!), but I think it is the whole vox clementis in deserto thing. To the extent that I have any input with Bob, I have asked him to be kinder and gentler. But I'll take "right" over "kinder and gentler."
Seth Jason: Do you think your shareholders would be better served if you distanced yourself from him and his organization, which you have helped to fund?
Patrick Byrne:I helped fund Bob and also tried to rein him when he went overboard. On balance he has done our shareholders a favor. Incidentally, does the vindictiveness of Herb, Jesse [Eisinger, of The Wall Street Journal], and Jeff Matthews concern you equally, or is your outrage selective?
Yahoo protects death threats from organized crime on NFI and OSTK
TECHNOLOGY TRADER
By BILL ALPERT
A Family Threatened on the 'Net
WE FINANCIAL WRITERS spend our time looking for dollar bills lying on the sidewalks of Wall Street, and hundred-dollar bills offered at suspicious discounts. But sometimes we take the more redeeming role of a Neighborhood Watch, shouting out when we see someone threatening a kid in a wheelchair.
I'm shouting.
The online debate over some stocks has become dangerous enough that the cops should take notice. In recent weeks, a pseudonymous message writer on Yahoo! chat boards has posted thinly-veiled threats against the the wife and disabled kid of a hedge-fund manager. The writer of the threatening messages keeps changing his Yahoo! screen names, but under the pseudonym "Bob O'Brien" he operates one Website that condemns shortselling and another that promotes the sub-prime mortgage-lender Novastar Financial (ticker: NFI), a company with which he claims no affiliation. I can't contribute to the world's knowledge of Novastar and I haven't the slightest idea who "Bob O'Brien" really is.
But in e-mails to me, and on one of his Websites, "O'Brien" acknowledges that he wrote the Yahoo! messages publicizing the location and identities of the family of Marc Cohodes, a money manager with the hedge fund Rocker Partners, that "O'Brien" blames for selling Novastar short. The Yahoo! messages read like lines from a gangster movie or an anti-abortion Website that targets doctors.
On April 19, "O'Brien" used a screen name "dirtydirtydeeds" to post on the Yahoo! chat board devoted to Novastar Financial. The subject line of one message consisted simply of Cohodes' home address. The message said:
"How is the weather up in [Cohodes' town]?
Sunny days? Todo Bien? Is [Cohodes' son] well? [Cohodes' wife] good? Everything working out
OK?
Wanna talk about [another address] as well?
Still feel like playing?
This is coming up on game overtime. Figure it out. Your playbook is known."
A few days later, using the same screen name, "O'Brien" wrote:
"[Cohodes address]
[Cohodes son] doing well today, I trust?"
There were other, similar messages, and not all of them under the same screen name. As it happens, Cohodes' son was born with cerebral palsy and gets around in a wheelchair. The message board carried links to a picture of Cohodes' house and his son.
In other messages, "O'Brien" asked readers for the home address of Herb Greenberg, the columnist at our sister organization MarketWatch.Com.
Yahoo! eventually pulled the messages from the Novastar board, but you can still find messages from August 2002 that attacked Cohodes on the Yahoo! message board for ESS Technology. That's when Barron's quoted the hedge-fund investor on the business problems facing ESS, a manufacterer of chips for DVD players. Cohodes was right, and the stock has since dropped from 13 to 3. At the time, Cohodes asked a judge to order Yahoo! to identify the writers of the anonymous threat, but the judge declined-saying the threats were harmless rhetoric.
Cohodes and his family feel endangered by the latest Yahoo! board threats, and only a callous person could disagree. "Are you threatening to kidnap them, are you threatening to kill them...what's the deal?" Cohodes says about his anonymous stalker. "A guy threatening a severely disabled kid is pretty low."
I asked "O'Brien" how his messages could be read as anything but threats. At first, "O'Brien" denied that Cohodes had been threatened. When I forwarded copies of the threats, O'Brien didn't give a responsive answer. Instead, he offered "context," saying his friends had been abused in anonymous messages that he blames on Cohodes.
Why he blames Cohodes is the scary part, because in his volumes of Internet postings, "O'Brien" shows no evidence that Cohodes and Cohodes' family are anything but the victims of a dangerous-sounding man. I hope that public-safety officials figure out who "O'Brien" is.
Keep up the good work!
5:16 PM
mfairview said...
Funny.. Thank god in today's day and age one does not need to work for a publication or own a publication to get the word out...
It's rather interesting to see how senior editors and field reporters interpret their story given their news feed. Would be interested in hearing how others would interpret it.
http://ncans.net/alpert%20interview.htm
Jesse Eisinger and of course Carol Remond of Wall Sreet Journal deserve kudos for having brought Mr.James Dale Davidson 'out of the closet' so to speak, as either being 'Bob O'Brien' himself or the major financial backer,(with the possible exception of Patrick Byrne),of ncans.net.
Although Motely Fool may have been the first,(and hopefully not the last),to mention James Dale Davidson in context of and with NFI-INFO.NET and NCANS.NET,WSJ's two top notch reporters have humbly done more to expose what may still have many more surprises in store. Motley Fool must take criticism as well for articles that, intentionally or not,have aided and abetted the naked shorting myth,and in so doing,have protected the criminals who have used the claim to mask their own penny stock pump and dump fraud and securities manipulations and possible money laundering activities.
I only hope the SEC,DOJ,FBI,etc. would begin an investigation if journalistic will or interest is lost. Unfortunately I am left to wonder at the political will of Washington,D.C. to investigate itself in light of such heavy weight politicians as Utah's Senator Bennett, at best looking foolish for promoting a worthless penny stock named Global Links as a victim of 'naked shorting', and at worst,perhaps concealing or protecting Beltway insider James Dale Davidson or his Utah constituent Patrick Byrne,son of billionaire Jack Byrne,and feeling a need or desire to cover up for them and perhaps OTHER Beltway or politically connected individuals.Patrick Byrne and his billionaire father of Gieco insurance fame funded an anti-John Edwards campaign on their own to the tune of $1 million as I explained above I believe.
It was Jesse Eisinger's investigating that scared ncansd3 or 'Bob O'Brien' on yahoo's NFI message board into uttering 'james davidson' on June 2 as a major financial contributor and sponser,including of cell phones,and 'a boat' named 'James Davidson. Before that he denied ever hearing of a 'James Davidson' including on ncans.net when William Alpert of Barrons put the question to him directly.
Of course later when he posted his complete email exchange with Eisinger on ncans.net,he xxxx's out all mention of the boat's 'james davidson' name.Eisinger also appears to have gotten some news of a Wells Fargo account in San Diego for ncans.net and their lawyers,Sadr and Barrera.
The WSJ/Eisiger Email Echange,take this link and scroll down:
http://bobosrevenge.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_bobosrevenge_archive.html
James Angel formerly of Haas School of Business at the University of California at Berkeley and now Georgetown starred in the infomercial with Mary Campbell Helburn and Utah Senator Bennett.I informed him that the only address for the organization appeared to be a striptease joint whose owners were accused of bribing San Diego city council members.I also asked him to provide one example of a company seriously injured by 'naked shorting'.So far,no answer.The Cheetah Club also has the distinction of being the only lap dance club I know of investigated by the FBI under the Patriot Act,by the way,very strange indeed.
Note the latest 'biotech' penny stock scam Mr. Davidson is involved,Amenni,has Saudi and Dubai investment ties an has connections.And no doubt if this new pump and dump meets an office in Dubai. Mr.Davidson will have stolen from more naive Americans(such as myself) to benefit himself and the Saudis.This is a Beltway 'patriot' ?
James Dale Davidson,Dubai,and penny stock connections:
http://www.offshorebusiness.com/message_board.asp?search=amenni&submit=S...
Or go to http://www.offshorebusiness.com message board and do search 'bellador' or 'amenni'.
FROM YAHOO NFI BOARD JUNE 2 IN WHICH 'ncansd3' or 'BOB O'BRIEN' HINTS OF JAMES DALE DAVIDSON CONNECTION FOR FIRST TIME:
Re: Send, or not? Comment, or copy? RVA
by: ncansd3
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 06/02/05 12:02 am
Msg: 310727 of 333497
I would add that copies of emails in which Mr. Eisinger cites very granular banking info regarding NCANS deposits are available if they wish to email me.
What is actually funniest to me is that through all of this, the reporter hasn't considered that he might have found a guy who contributes to NCANS and has used his cash to help the cause - but is someone different than me. Someone who actually has been very helpful with things like procuring anonymous cell phones and the like, but is no more Bob O'Brien than the Granny he went to terrorize. Oh well, I'm sure it will all make great theater, and the attorneys are likely to have a ball with it. Like I said in the beginning - they require a Bob O'Brien at all costs, and it really doesn't matter much whether he is the genuine article or not at the end of the day.
And I'm not telling - not going to do it. Kind of pisses everyone off, I can tell. Sorry guys. But I'm quite sure you have the right guy - keep on keeping on - he sounds like a bad 'un to me. Very mysterious. I was told a sandwich shop was involved. One shudders to think what goes on there. And a boat. I think it's named the James Davidson. It is all unclear at present. Or maybe the sandwiches are subs - those are marine sounding.
Actually, I do kind of wish it was me. Not that it isn't. Or is. Or may be. Or not.
But what I do know is that violating federal laws is a no no last time I checked - and if what they discovered was a big donor to the cause - I hope it was worth someone going to jail over. That's what happens when you violate federal law, I think - I haven't done any federal lawbreaking, so couldn't tell you.
So what do we have at the end of all of this? People who can easily be shown to do anything it takes to get their way, regardless of the law, and who aren't bright enough to get that they are holding nothing. Capital N. Nada. Which they will ultimately find out, as do most who have nothing, over time. In the meanwhile, I think maybe this will be a good mechanism to launch the fiction book - it's about a corrupt, criminally linked hedge fund who sets out to crush a company as part of its serial killing mechanism, who uses the press to do its dirty work and considers itself above the law due to its political contacts, and decides to go after a guy that creates a website that exposes their scheme and creates considerable difficulty for them. I even have a corrupt reporter or two in it. Sort of wrote itself. I think it's a good read. Fast, and believe it or not, has a few similarities to real life.
Have to figure out how to get it out there. I suspect now is the time.
Oh well, good night all. Thanks for all the FBI and WSJ complaints - they will follow up, and they don't just poo poo this sort of thing when it involves attorney trust accounts and feloniously obtained bank records.
We shall see what the day brings.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 310685 by rvac106
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James Dale Davidson in his own words about his 'naked short' securities frauds and penny stock pump and dump activity.Although to promote a stock for purpose of dumping shares is illegal,the SEC looks the other way.I am the 'crazy dog' of his obsessions and was posting on ragingbull.com as did others to warn about his anti-naked short fraud 'NAANSS' used to divert attention of naive investors from the act that it was him dumping shares and not brokers 'naked shorting'.Mr.Davidson was founder of Agora Publications that has touted numerous questionable penny stocks over years years and has numerous websites and mail fraud scams.Agora even promoted CIA invested penny stock Ionatron that CIA insiders dumped :
http://www.vantagepoint-ia.com/Secure/IssueArchive/html%20ve…
Lies, Lies, Lies: Stalkers Meet the Stock Market
It is hard to imagine a retiree or a housewife with time on her hands suddenly deciding to make a hobby of posting anonymous slanders on the GeneMax thread. But one can read dozens of embittered messages there complaining of everything but the real problem. For example, some bozo whose screen name translates to "crazy dog" recently posted an outrageous slander of me: "Does Davidson, as founder of National Taxpayers Union, ever pay taxes on fraud pump-dumps he"s orchestrated using "naked shorting" as a subterfuge to mask his fraud?" In one sentence he manages to falsely imply that I have engaged in a whole range of felonies. I don"t know whether to feel flattered that the naked short sellers find me so formidable an opponent that they would stoop to anonymous smears, or to hire a bodyguard.
In any event, I would hope that Mr. "crazy dog" is well paid for his pains. With the possible exception of a few demented people I"ve crossed paths with, I can"t imagine anyone other than stalkers and major parishioners of naked short selling being so obsessed with me. And what humanitarian motive could explain the smears they pour down on GeneMax - a company that if it can raise sufficient funding may possibly help cure cancer? Go figure.
The Electronic Counterfeiter"s Worst Nightmare:
Circle Group Holdings Rallies 30,000%
The worst nightmare of naked short sellers is that the companies they attack should survive and actually succeed. When that happens, as recently occurred in the case of Circle Group Holdings Inc. (CXN: AMEX), the counterfeiters are obliged to enter the market and buy the duly authorized shares of the capital stock of the company they have sold. CXN rose by nearly 30,000%, from 3 cents to almost $9, as naked short sellers were obliged to buy and deliver shares they counterfeited prior to CXN"s move to the AMEX.
When you think of what happened in the case of Circle Group Holdings, you can see why the malicious charges leveled against me by anonymous smear-mongers on Web sites are ridiculous. If their assertions that I was orchestrating naked short selling were correct, I would hardly have become one of the leading critics of the practice. Nor would I continue to champion the causes of the companies I had "sent under" by allegedly selling wave after wave of electronically counterfeited stock.
And as the example of CXN demonstrates, the damage done to the share prices of companies targeted for destruction by electronic counterfeiters is also a measure of their upside potential - for everyone but the counterfeiters.
Of course, even the most virulent rantings of Mr. "crazy dog" are unlikely to carry much weight with thinking people. To orchestrate more effective smears, the electronic counterfeiters needed a more apparently credible platform. An Internet site called our-street. com emerged to fill the market arising from naked short sellers for seemingly trustworthy smears of small-cap companies that threaten to succeed.
Thus for one reason or another, our-street. com and its marquee character, who writes under the pseudonym Nick Tracy, stepped up to service this
market. Our-street immediately began hurling accusations about securities violations left and right. I first became aware of Nick Tracy and his tendentious exposés when someone sent me a copy of an hysterical attack he did on ChampionLyte Products (CPLY: OTCBB) , a company in which I and a group of investors took a portfolio interest as it attempted to restructure its balance sheet and realize the potential of its low-carb sports drink.
James Davidson,Vantage Point
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My correspondence with Davidson and threats from O'Brien
by Tony Ryals Sunday October 02, 2005 at 10:07 AM
endoscam@lycos.com
In 2004 I decided to finally contact Mr.James Dale Davidson personallY,as the Endovasc fraud continued and the SEC did nothing.Below is that correspondence which,in my opinion,might be used by a plagiarisn expert along with James Dale Davidson's fraudulent penny stock promotions found in Agora's 'Vantage Point' or elsewhere to discover if there is a link between Davidson and 'Bob O'Brien' or 'NAANSS' and 'NCANS'.
My correspondence with Mr.James Dale Davidson himself:
Note James Dale Davidson founded 'NAANSS'to mask his own share dumping after illegally using his many internet websites and use of the mail to send out his fraudulent promotions of his many penny stock scams.Note he continues to blather on and on about electronic trading creating counterfit shares.And it's all a lie to mask his share-money laundering operation.
James Dale Davidson replies:
By tony ryals on 3/20/2004 8:10:43 PM
E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com
'James Dale Davidson' answers,or avoids answering,as the case may be, Ryals email:
Dear Mr. Ryals,
Who are you? I infer from your rantings below that you are delusional. But perhaps more than that? Perhaps you are malicious, and in the employ of electronic counterfeiters who have feasted on the corpses of small public companies ever since the advent of electronic clearing? I can think of no other motivation that would explain your letter. By and large, normal people do not sit around inventing malicious fantasies about someone they don't even know.
Obviously, you have your own agenda, so you are unlikely to be swayed by anything I might say. I recognize that. But for what it's worth, I have never been involved in any "pump and dump" exercise. For the record, you have been warned. I would advise you not to repeat your malicious slanders in a public forum, or I shall be obliged to take legal action for redress.
Sincerely,
James Davidson
P.S. By the way, your search for a company I have been involved with which was a success for its investors could not have been very diligent. As it happens, there was a long op ed piece in the Washington Post this week by a small investor who made so much money following my advice that filing his taxes had become a burden for him.
Tony Ryals wrote:
Dear Mr.James Dale Davidson,
I have meant to contact you for some time regarding my Endovasc 'investment'.I have no idea when you left the 'company' but by the time you did it had dumped millions of shares while fraudulently claiming the 'shareholder value' was the result of Schwab's,Ameritrade's, Refco's,et.al.'s, 'naked shorting.Was 'famed trial attorney O'Quinn'perhaps misled to believe that all those shares were the result of 'naked shorting' rather than the apparent pump dump operation it turned to be ?
I also noted you were greatly responsible for founding the 'naanss' group that blamed most shareholder penny stock losses on 'naked shorting'.Is this just a smoke screen for defrauding Americans and laundering their money through massive share dumping that cannot easily be tracked ? Was the account Mr.Cantrell set up at Schwab with an insider for millions of seemingly free shares a part of your November 2002 pump dump ?
I have looked continuously for a company you have been involved with that was a success for its shareholder-investors. And you know I can't seem to find one although for some reason you always appear to have pumped and dumped the stock through your own myriad publications. Sometimes I believe 'The Soveriegn Individual'explains your own modus operendi of using the internet for anonymously influencing naive investors to buy while you dump the shares you have gotten for free from penny stock 'management' and then use your offshore shells including 'LOM' anmd 'New Paradigm' among many others to hide launder that money you stole from Americans so as not to pay taxes on the theft.That is doubly humorous and fraudulent coming from one who pretends to be an American patriot,even involving yourself in political intrigue,and who prides in having founded the 'National Taxpayers Union'.
Also you have claimed publically the the 'SEC lies'. This I will not comment on but to say they rarely say anything at all.And only through 'freedom of information act' can you get a thing out of them. However you also tell me in your 'Vantage Point'that you received a few shares of Endovasc by way of a 'nicotine patent'that you applied for with 'Dr.Summers.Could you please inform me what the patent number is or was it approved ? Then at another time you claim to have a 'substantial' holding of Endovasc shares through an unidentified source.Was this as a 'consultant'or what,I really don't understand.You see the only reason I 'invested' in 2001 was because of the Stanford nicotine patent for angiogenesis.Now if you left another as you claim in exchange for shares I would like to know about it.
Finally, as an off topic from my Endovasc losses due to a fraudulent pump dump, I would like to ask if you still think Bill Clinton murdered your former employee, CIA Chief Willam Colby ? Try as I might I cannot find any statement from Mr.Colby re the death of Vince Foster nor any reason to believe he agreed with you that Bill Clinton killed his own friend.
Sincerely,
Tony Ryals
James'Fraud'Davidson and MOD Ventures:
27 N. Summerlin Ave.
Orlando,Florida 32801
James Dale Davidson jamesd@attglobal.net
Private Investor, Entrepreneur, Analyst and Author. Mr. Davidson
has extensive experience in entrepreneurial executive management/venture
finance. Author, with Lord William Rees-Mogg, Blood in the Streets:
Investment Profits in a World Gone Mad, The Great Reckoning, and
The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information
Age. Founder of Agora Publishing, The Hulbert Financial Digest,
and Strategic Investment. Director of Pickering & Chatto Publishers,
London. Principal of The Fleet Street Press. Founder (natural resource
companies) Oroperu, Sedna Geotech, Ouro Brasil, Oro Argentina, Consolidated
African Holdings, Anatolia Minerals Development Corporation. President,
New Paradigm Capital, a private merchant bank based in Bermuda,
a former director of Banco Comafi S.A., Buenos Aires, Argentina
and Cardlink Worldwide, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Current North American
technology and Internet related affiliations: BestTransport, Mariah
Vision3, Interactive Retail Management, Internet Transactions Transnational,
NewsMax Media, Advanced Power Devices, Packetup Corporation, Stardata,
and CyGene. Founder, MIVI Therapeutics and GeneMax Pharmaceuticals.
Chairman, Wharekauhau Holdings Ltd., Featherston, New Zealand, Director,
Martinborough Vineyards, Martinborough, New Zealand, and Palliser
Properties, Ltd, Auckland, Deputy Chairman, BEVsystems, Founder
and Director, New World Premium Brands, Auckland, New Zealand (winery roll-up and distribution).
Re: James Dale Davidson replies:
By tony ryals on 3/21/2004 3:41:57 PM
E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com
My Ryals,
You don't identify yourself. Really, that is rather uncivil, though hardly more uncivil than your initial missive which accuses me of a number of felonies of which I know I am innocent. Under the circumstances, I have no interest in keeping up an extended correspondence with you, given that you have made it quite clear that you are prejudiced against me and prepared to leap to conclusions which are remote from the facts.
That said, I doubt that you have a claim against me over the patent I applied for in conjunction with Dr. Summers, as Endovasc signed a substantial contract with a major nutraceutical firm to market the product. This has all been announced. As to being proud of it, yes, I am. It was a valid insight that has been confirmed in human and animal testing.
Sincerely,
James Davidson
Tony Ryals wrote:
Dear Mr. James Dale Davidson,
I appreciate your attempt at a reply but other than your name calling there was a total disregard for the questions I posed.Others,than you or I, who are both biased as to whether your 'Vantage Point' Endovasc articles are pump dumps,can deal with that.
I, as an 'investor' in Endovasc long before you appeared,would just like to focus on the nicotine patent you wrote with Dr.Summers.Remember that you proudy announced that you had co-patented it with Dr.Summers in 'Vantage Point' in 2002 when the stock was being featured in 'Vantage Point' ? Where can I find the number of this patent ? And just how many shares did it cost us, the humble naive investors who bought our shares the old fahioned way ,through those dirty naked shorting mms such as Charles Schwab ? You are more sophistiated re securities than I so you might help me locate this tranacton in SEC filings or fill me in as to why such minor details are not requred in SEC filings.
Your assistance in locating this patent that all EVSC INVESTORS ARE MOST PROUD OF IS MOST APPRECIATED.
Sincerely,
Tony Ryals
James Dale Davidson proud of securities frauds:
By tony ryals on 3/25/2004 5:23:40 PM
E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com
Dear Mr. Ryals,
Needless to say, I regret that you lost money in Endovasc or, indeed, in any investment. That said, your fixation on exploring this issue with me is entirely misplaced. By your own admission, you did not invest in Endovasc on my say-so. In the somewhat patchy account of your complaint that emerges between the lines of your demanding and unpleasant communication, I find no logical nexus between your losses and any action of mine. In pure logic, I cannot see how applying for a patent could have destroyed your investment, or exposed it to any material harm whatever. In the absence of any disclosure on your part, I owe you none. And none you will get. If you think you have a claim against me, contact my lawyer, whose e-mail address is listed above.
Otherwise, I will treat your further communications as spam in the same category as a certificate for a $10 savings on any Teddy Bear purchased in April, notice of a free poetry contest, something about "Ronald Reagan's greatest laughs," and the inevitable promise to enlarge my penis by "up to five inches guaranteed." Att is sending through a lot of malarkey, including too much from you. You have not behaved as a gentleman in any respect in our correspondence. I won't miss hearing from you.
Sincerely,
James Davidson
Tony Ryals wrote:
Dear James Dale Davidson,
Is this your way of saying no patent exists ? All I asked was for the patent number, or if it is still pending,the date it was applied for.I would presume this patent is part of the pink sheet 'evsc' branch as that is the entity I presume is related to the $1.5 million something or other.Sure I would like to know how many shares were given to you for the patent as well.
Also I am glad for you that Stanford did not challenge it as it appears it may be covered in their own patents.Stanford angiogenesis patent by the way can be located on internet.As I lost 99% of my 'share value' due to supposed 'naked shorts'I would at least like to have full disclosure re this patent.
You and the doctor must have a copy describing the patent. May I see it ?
Sincerely,
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Senator Bennett,penny stock scam,Cheetah Club
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110190.shtml
Senator Bennett :Is Patrick Byrne's NCANS a Fraud ?
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883.php
Are You James Dale Davidson ?
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11884
My correspondence with Davidson and threats from O'Brien
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11885
A Dozen Answers From Dr. Byrne
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11892
Byrne on coke,gay bath houses and al qaeda
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11896
Schwab LOM and share-mony laundering
http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/1747107.php
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http://www.phillyimc.org/en/node/42943
Yahoo protects stock mafia's death threats
by
Tony Ryals | 10.14.2005
While
Yahoo turns in dissident journalists in China to the goverment for what
ever fate awaits them,here in America they protect and coddle known
securities frauds and possibly dangerous individuals and allow them to
operate with impunity on stock message boards to defraud you and me,
Yahoo's 'fellow Americans'.And to threaten your life if you get to close
to the truth.
The paradox for me is that I am an avid 'free speecher' but I draw the line at death threats and fraud.The example I site is http://www.ncans.net, whose only known address is a lap dance club called Cheetah Club in Las Vegas whose management has been convicted of bribing San Diego city council.
Carol Remond of Wall Street Journal brought this fact up of the only known address with 'Bob O'brien' of ncans.net and nfi.net in an email interview.
And it is the only known strip club to be investigated under the Patriot Act.And the fact that although it has a sectretive Wells Fargo account in San Diego,it placed an ad costing over $100,000 in the Washington Post on February 8 addressing Mr.W Bush about the 'dangers' of 'naked short selling' to investing SS funds in the stock market.What the SEC should have known and did but still did nothing about,as this sccam continues to go down,is that it was a tactic used by a group called 'NAANSS' IN 2002 TO MASK THE ILLEGAL DUMPING OF PENNY STOCK SHARES - INCLUDING FROM A CHARLES SCHWAB ACCOUNT OR ACCOUNTS,AS I PREVIOUSLY DOCUMENTED ON INDYBAY, AND ALSO,POSSIBLY TO LAUNDER MONEY !!! America,what has become of you ?
I have reason to believe 'Bob O'Brien' OF NCANS.NET,is either James Dale Davidson or working for him or with him.The only known address for this mafiosi fraud which may have a Beltway origen and thus is protected by Washington,D.C. insiders, is a lap dance club called Cheetah Club in Las Vegas.The Cheetah Club's management has been convicted of bribing San Diego city council.And it is the only known strip club to be investigated under the Patriot Act.As Jeff Matthews says on his bog site,'I'm not making this up'.The Davidson connection would go a long way to explaining his bravery in
addressing a fraudulent ad-letter to Bush in the Washington Post in this post 911 era without fear of a full scale investigation.As founder of National Taxpayers Union he would know Senator Bennett just as Patrick Byrne does,as well as Norquist who has been important in the NTU and Steve Forbes etc.His
co-author for many of his second rate books is the Lord Rees-Mogg formerly of the London Financial Times,So Rupert Murdoch connections too,to some extent. Both James Dale Davidson and the Lord Rees-Mogg played roles in creating the Clinton 'scandals' but that's another story.
Below are messages or threats against me that were taken from Yahoo's NFI and OSTK message boards and were reposted on offshorebusiness.com for the record just as I do again here.This also includes my email to Yahoo who removed my messages and deleted my email account all because I was warning others(and the SEC) a scam was going down by an organized criminal gang on Yahoo paid for in part by the spoiled Stanford educated son of Jack Byrne of Geico insurance fame,Patrick Byrne of Overstock.com. Together they put over $1 million into anti-John Edwards campaign propaganda and to fund Swift Boat Vets Againt Kerry.
What is worse is that Patrick Byrne admits staight out he funds ncans.net and it is a fact unidentified ncans members work behind many aliases on Yahoo in general and the NFI and OSTK board fraudulently claiming the companies are being shorted with non-existent shares,i.e.-'naked shorted' !! They futher try and trick board members to take their shares out of their accounts and buy paper certificates.Yahoo knows they are hosting an organized securities fraud,including for the spoiled son of a billionaire who sponsers it to illegally promote his own near worthless stock !!!!
Unfortunately threats to me are not taken as seriously by Wall Street Journal or Barrons or Reuters as are threats to well known hedge fund managers and the SEC at best doesn't care.Actually threats to MarcCohodes of Marin county did make Reuters news as well as Barrons whose editor,William Alpert, contacted me to enquire why I believe James Dale Davidson of National Taxpayers Union,'NAANSS' or the 'National Association Against Naked Short Selling' and the right wing http://www.newsmax.com is behind it. You will note from the aliases addressing me on Yahoo they know my name and feel they know my whereabouts(Guatemala).You will also note Charles Schwab could have stopped this nightmare years ago because they provided an illegal pump and dump account to Endovasc of Montgomery,Texas that promoted a Stanford University patent that Davidson also promoted in his Agora Publications mail fraud and cyberfraud operation.So,in many ways,Stanford University and its professors, Heeschen and Cooke,benefitted and profited from an ilegal pump and dump of worthless stock and post 911 money laundering in Kuala Lumpur !!
Actually I feel Yahoo and the SEC and the FBI and the DOJ owe it to both Marc Cohodes and myself to reveal who posts our names on Yahoo with gratuitous threats to our lives or relatives in the case of Marc Cohodes.
Tony Ryals
These are posts from Yahoo's NFI 'message board' that are also available on http://www.offshorebusiness.com message board that includes my email to Yahoo after they deleted my account to please the fraudsters and did nothing about their death threats.:
The threats of 'Bob O'Brien' and his ncans.net mafia.
I'm posting my communication with Yahoo who deleted my account,(all email and posts), again to appease the 'ncans mafia' who dominate the Yahoo NFI and OSTK boards there.
I'm posting the two threatening messages from the ncans.net gang,(ncansd3 is or was 'Bob O'Brien),in part because I fear Yahoo will,at most, delete those messages to protect the guilty.As I aleady mentioned here previously,on the thread relating to removal of the diligizer board and all its voluminous research contributed by posters,even Eliot Spitzer's spitzer2006 has removed all of my posts that was titled 'ss funds in manipulated markets' and other discussions started by individuals there.
This included very interesting chatter from the Yahoo NFI message board including the 'Tony reveals' post immediately below.
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=8729314&tid=...
Re: Tony Reveals...
by: ncansd3
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 07/04/05 11:35 pm
Msg: 319891 of 342767
Guatemala? Tikal is OK. The rest of the place is a mosquito infested
hellhole where you can have someone taken out for $500 bucks to the
right cabby. Come to think of it, Tikal has a ton of mosquitos, too.
And it's rainy season.
Guatemala is the punchline for jolks in Honduras and El Salvador. No
offense to Guatemalans, who are generally very simpatico and genuine.
And you don't even want to see the winner of a machete fight.
Enjoy the Dengue and Malaria and Typhoid and Yellow Fever, Tony. Good
move. Nice choices. Bravo.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 319884 by short_bag_holder
Type your feedback here:
Dear Yahoo,
This is hopefully more than a rebuttal
to whoever had my account deleted on
Yahoo for 'TOS'.This is hopefully a
wake up call to what could become news
regarding Yahoo itself in allowing
organized tout gangs,organised crime
in my opinion, to take over certain
message boards and threaten the safety
of whoever might have a critical or
discouraging word of the stocks they
mindlessly tout on Yahoo.
In case you haven't noticed you have
not ONE or TWO or THREE individuals
who tout OSTK and NFI but an organized
gang! Sometimes when they don't like
journalists or people who may be
investigating their ncans.net account
in San Diego for instance,as was the
case of one journalist in June,you
heard talk of 'guns' on Yahoo.Well,
maybe you haven't.You seem to avoid
wanting to know.
The leader alias as you may know is
the alias 'Bob O'Brien' of ncans.net
and nfi-info-net who was
dirtydirtydeeds and who became
notorious in national news for subtle
life threats to and the releasing of
the addresses of Marc Cohodes and family
of Rocker hedge fund in Marin on
Yahoo NFI message board.This was
covered by both Reuters and Barrons !!!
And yet with no problem or notice by
Yahoo he returned immediately to lead
his organized band on Yahoo
as 'ncansd3'.
Now he is 'easter_bunny_d3 !!The gang
of penny touters organise around him
and hhill,who I believe is Howard Hill
a former professional in Deutsche Bank
and finance community and one mhelburn
or Mary Campbell Helburn.
She has suggested that SEC employees
should be 'axed' someone should come
in with a 'scythe' and cut off heads
and that in Japan these SEC employees
would be forced to commit mass
suicide. She also appeared in a video
which you can find on ncans.net
and pretended to have lost over half
her handicapped nephew's money in
penny stocks due to 'NAKED SHORTING'!
At other times the gang DOES name SEC
names,particularly Annette Nazareth
for some reason.One of the gang,some
months ago,claimed to know Jesse
Eisinger's(of WSJ) parents but are
VERY critical of him and mentioned in
passing about some human body floating
in a river near his parents home !!
This group is not a bunch of 'mom and
pop' investors as they originally
claimed and Yahoo would have to live
in a vacuum not to know they were
funded to the tune of $10,000's of
thousands of dollars by OSTK's Byrne
alone whose stock they are touting on
Yahoo at this very moment while
probably threatening anyone who isn't
saying 'to da moon' and pretending it
is only $40+ a share due to naked
shorting !!
So excuse me if I'm wrong but
basically what we have here is a gang
of professional stock touters on Yahoo
who have been documented to threaten
others even in national and
international news reports.One of the
two main stocks they tout on Yahoo as
a victim of naked shorting is Patrick Byrne's
OSTK who we all know has given substantial
donations,if that's the right word,to
fund them !!! Even a $100,000+ ad was
taken out by this gang who occupy your
NFI and OSTK message boards in the
Washington Post on February 8 !! It is
my belief that the ncans gang who tout
with impunity on Yahoo is related to a
now defunct website called 'naanss'and
possibly a James Dale Davidson.You can
do a google search of that.
True or not it is the same scam of
claiming naked shorting is occuring in
certain stocks, mainly penny
stocks,and that investors should
buy 'certs'.This is who you are
protecting and coddling on Yahoo
whether you realise it or not.
So what is clear is I NEVER threaten
anyone on Yahoo or anywhere else.Sure
I poke fun a what appears an obvious
scam to me,the same scam a penny
company associated with 'naanss' used
in 2002 to rip me off 100%.And yes I
do try to warn other investors who may
fall victim to them believing OSTK or
NFI is victim of naked shorting and
the price will be over $200 A SHARE AS
THEY HAVE CLAIMED FOR NFI AND TO
BUY 'CERTS' WHICH ALLOWS INSIDERS TO
THE SCAM TO TIE UP THOSE SHARES AS
THEY DUMP OR MANIPULATE IMHO.
But it is the ncans gang you protect
who got me a 'tos' and all my email
deleted who threaten others and lie
about stocks to lure suckers,not me.
Below are a couple of examples of
these threats to me,Tony Ryals,as well
as links to self published articles
about this fraud,in my opinion,that
Yahoo,so far,aids and abets for
whatever reason.My original account
WAS Tony Ryals until the Yahoo tout
syndicate who threaten my life as you
can see below and know where I live
had you remove my original account AND
ALL MY IMPORTANT EMAIL FOR THEIR
PLEASURE !!!
They have more aliases than I can keep
up with and make more everyday on
Yahoo,they are organised securities
fraud and you are their main website
to con and lure to ncans.net,nfi-
info.net,buyin.net,etc., etc.,
Sure I would like my account back and
to have a chance to warn others about
them if you continue to alow their
organized crime on Yahoo.Otherwise I
do believe Yahoo should be held
responsible for anyone who loses money
at least on NFI or OSTK by 'advise'
they receive from this pro tout gang
on Yahoo.I've tried to warn but you
allow them to delete my account and my
warnings.You allow them to threaten
journalists and individuals who are
critical of their tactics.And in doing
so Yahoo has allied itself with what I
feel will be exposed as a massive
stock fraud in the end,organized
criminal activity on Yahoo.
So my name is Tony Ryals the threats
you see below to my life on Yahoo are
to me.They know who I am because I do
not play games or hide my identity or
hesitate to denounce their securities
fraud on Yahoo or anywhere else.These
scum you host,for stock fraud
promotion in my opinion,even use my
name,ctonyryals,as one of their Yahoo
aliases !!! And they've used so many
variations of my original Yahoo
alias,biodog0,I can't even keep up !!!
So look at the threats below about
coming to Guatemala to teach me a
lesson or about getting me killed for
$500 in Guatemala.Do you all think
that's cute ? I have reason to believe
they may be able to manipulate Yahoo
message board or have uploaded
something of interest from
a 'heroic.org' English or Russian
server but I'm not sure.I can send you
what I have though so you can see if
what they or someone uploaded to Yahoo
from that site was legit.
Although this is long,the issues are
serious,and I await your reply to know
if I should simply put this
communication and the life threats you
seem to encourage into the public
domain of the http://www internet for the
world to see.
Sincerely
Tony Ryals
RE Jesse Eisinger,WSJ,and ncans.net
phones,donation, and boat named "James
Davidson" :
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.
mm=FN&board=8729314&tid=nfi&sid=8729314
&action=m&mid=310727
Tony Reveals,ncansd3 subtle threats :
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.
mm=FN&action=m&board=8729314&tid=nfi&si
d=8729314&mid=319891
Tony Ryals is playing with fire
"by: ftd_is_a_criminal_offense "
"Long-Term Sentiment: Buy 08/29/05 "
12:12 am
"Msg: 339114 of 340847 "
Tony said
"I do know you are a stock fraud"
Tony,
You seem to be going over the line.
That type degradation of a man's honor
is not looked upon favorably by the US
court system.
Your claim of no assets does not give
you the right to use a public message
board to make claims that you know are
false.
Your current walk on the wild side
should have educated you to the fact
that some folks are not as relaxed and
honorable as Mr. Hill.
Please be more careful in your
unfounded accusations - and good luck
in any forthcoming prison time.
Naked shorting is the name.
RICO is the game.
"Posted as a reply to: Msg 339045 by "
ncansisscam
"Subj: Re: Tony Ryals is playing with "
fire
"By: easter_bunny_d3 "
"Date : 08/29/05 12:17 am "
Tony is posting from Guatemala, which
he thinks insulates him from most
everything.
It kind of does, the only problem is
that you have to live in Guatemala.
http://finance.messages.yahoo.com/bbs?.mm=FN&action=m&board=8729314&tid=...
"Subj: Re: Tony Ryals is playing with "
fire
"By: ftd_is_a_criminal_offense "
"Date: 08/29/05 12:39 am "
Easter Bunny,
You are so right.
Tony thinks that moving to an overseas
address will insulate him from
honorable folks.
I wonder what Tony would do if a
retired stockholder of any of the
companies that he is currently
slamming paid him a personal visit?
You know all longs don't necessarily
live in the US. Most retirees have
plenty of time on their hands and
might enjoy educating Tony to the
benefits of owning OSTK, NFI, and SCH.
Tony is also very free in calling
people "frauds".
http://messages.yahoo.com/bbs?
action=m&board=7081280&tid=sch&mid=7061
0&sid=70812 80
A quick check of Yahoo's message
boards shows 957 posts by the infamous
Tony. I have still not found a message
of substance.
Oh well, he has plenty of time on his
hands now. We can only hope that his
free time on the outside is replaced
by free time with Bubba soon.
Naked shorting is the name
RICO is the game
...............................................................
Does Texas Attorney O'Quinn aid penny
stock fraud ?
http://cvilleindymedia.org/newswire.php
?story_id=1788
To SEC:JAMES ANGEL,GEORGETOWN AIDS
PENNY STOCK FRAUD :
http://richmond.indymedia.org/newswire/
display/10927/index.php
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http://www.offshorebusiness.com/message_board_detail.asp?id=16135&page=1
A Dozen Answers From Dr. Byrne
by Tony Ryals Monday October 03, 2005 at 02:41 PM
endoscam@lycos.com
I add to our story on NCANS.NET, for the record,
this list of questions with answers from Utah's and Overstock.com's Patrick Byrne.Dr.Byrne has used the naked short claim to infer at least that his OSTK or Overstock.com stock is being 'naked shorted' by unknown people or a 'market maker' ,I guess.Market makers are the only people who can legally naked short or sell shares that are not immediatley available on the open market for resale to a purchaser.Ideally these market makers can then purchase the shares they sold to a retail customer on the open market.
However after having been convinced I was a victim of naked short selling in the past by the fraudulent Endovasc 'biotech' company out of Texas and attorney John O'Quinn,(now representing Patrick Byrne),and by James Dale Davidson who orchestrated the fraudulent promotion and dumping of millions of Endovasc shares,I have come to the conclusion, of more rational minds, that 'naked shorting' is not a grave problem to market stability.The earnings of the company are.
And the naked shorting claim has been used for a massive fraud in penny stocks and because the SEC did nothing it has moved up to higher market value
stocks,although still poor profit generating stocks such as Patrick Byrne's OSTK.
While Byrne at other times strongly denies OSTK is being 'naked shorted' but instead that shares are being coventionally and legally shorted by hedge funds and or private individuals,he funds NCANS and the unidentified Bob O'Brien who makes threats on Yahoo against a Rocker Partners hedge fund related individual,Marc Cohodes,as well as to myself ,whose only interest is in exposing those behind NCANS for the massive penny stock fraud I believe they are part of.
And Bob O'Brien's NCANS only function is to make
generally false claims of naked shorting for the stocks they promote,including Overstock.com.Dr. Patrick Byrne just sits back and lets this happen AND he pays them to do it !!
Aside from the fraud I suspect and lies and misinformation about 'naked shorting' being propogated by 'Bob O'Brien' and NCANS on
Yahoo and ragingbull.com etc.and using those sites to direct traffic to the ncans.net website,it goes even further off the deep end because Dr.Byrne also would have us believe in a 'Sith Lord' who is behind
this conspiracy against him and Overstock.com to bring it down !
Since fomenting this myth, ncans.net followers or
insiders to the scam began making fly by night websites devoted to Michael Milken and others as the 'Sith Lord' of Dr.Byrne's fanasy or nightmare. Others have been proposed but the accusation against Milken became so heated that Milken was driven to make a public denial.No he is not Patrick Byrne's 'Sith Lord'.
Because this is Utah, the home of Overstockcom and Byrne and Senator Bennett who appears to back him in his assertions of a 'naked shorting' conspiracy,and these are Dr.Byrne's public statements, I add them to my investigation here.It was Seth Jason of Motely Fool as you can see below who proposed them after he did the only article so far to officially mention the Beltway's James Dale Davidson as the 'brains' behind NCANS,whose only address so far appears to be Cheetah Club,a striptease joint in Las Vegas whose
San Diego branch was found guilty of bribing city council members.It is the only striptease joint,, to my knowledge,to have been investigated by the FBI using the Patriot Act for whatever reasons.
This interrogatory by Seth Jason was most important to me for a few reasons.Dr.Byrne for the first time mentions James Dale Davidson but only to deny he is the unidentified Bob O'Brien of NCANS.He also for the first time acknowledges he knows who Bob O'Brien really is.
Although he had donated 10's of thousands of dollars to the ad warning about naked shorting in the Washington Post on February 8,he had ,until then, denied knowing who he was working with !! Second because Dr.Byrne admits he funds Bob O'Brien and is thus,in many ways,funding 'O'Brien's' internet threats and fraudulent lies regarding 'naked shorting' and O'Brien's and NCANS promotion of many penny stocks claiming to be victims of 'naked shorting' that in truth appear to be illegal pump and dump scams.
You will find the statements immediately below from Dr.Byrne near the bottom of the interview but as they are the most significant to me I place them here at the top.:
Seth Jason: There's been a lot of controversy regarding your relationship with "Bob O'Brien," a man who hides behind a pseudonym ...
Patrick Byrne: Not to me. I know who he is (and he is not James Davidson). But the test of any theory (or theorist) is its ability to make accurate predictions. Bob made far-out but, in the end, accurate predictions about journalists, David Rocker, and our trading. Why get hung up on personalities?
... and issues vicious, unsupported attacks against anyone who disagrees with him.
A. False. O'Brien's vicious attacks are generally heavily supported.
Yes, his writing is acerbic (and he is more sarcastic in person!), but I think it is the whole vox clementis in deserto thing. To the extent that I have any input with Bob, I have asked him to be kinder and gentler. But I'll take "right" over "kinder and gentler."
Seth Jason: Do you think your shareholders would be better served if you distanced yourself from him and his organization, which you have helped to fund?
Patrick Byrne:I helped fund Bob and also tried to rein him when he went overboard. On balance he has done our shareholders a favor. Incidentally, does the vindictiveness of Herb, Jesse [Eisinger, of The Wall Street Journal], and Jeff Matthews concern you equally, or is your outrage selective?
Yahoo protects death threats from organized crime on NFI and OSTK
TECHNOLOGY TRADER
By BILL ALPERT
A Family Threatened on the 'Net
WE FINANCIAL WRITERS spend our time looking for dollar bills lying on the sidewalks of Wall Street, and hundred-dollar bills offered at suspicious discounts. But sometimes we take the more redeeming role of a Neighborhood Watch, shouting out when we see someone threatening a kid in a wheelchair.
I'm shouting.
The online debate over some stocks has become dangerous enough that the cops should take notice. In recent weeks, a pseudonymous message writer on Yahoo! chat boards has posted thinly-veiled threats against the the wife and disabled kid of a hedge-fund manager. The writer of the threatening messages keeps changing his Yahoo! screen names, but under the pseudonym "Bob O'Brien" he operates one Website that condemns shortselling and another that promotes the sub-prime mortgage-lender Novastar Financial (ticker: NFI), a company with which he claims no affiliation. I can't contribute to the world's knowledge of Novastar and I haven't the slightest idea who "Bob O'Brien" really is.
But in e-mails to me, and on one of his Websites, "O'Brien" acknowledges that he wrote the Yahoo! messages publicizing the location and identities of the family of Marc Cohodes, a money manager with the hedge fund Rocker Partners, that "O'Brien" blames for selling Novastar short. The Yahoo! messages read like lines from a gangster movie or an anti-abortion Website that targets doctors.
On April 19, "O'Brien" used a screen name "dirtydirtydeeds" to post on the Yahoo! chat board devoted to Novastar Financial. The subject line of one message consisted simply of Cohodes' home address. The message said:
"How is the weather up in [Cohodes' town]?
Sunny days? Todo Bien? Is [Cohodes' son] well? [Cohodes' wife] good? Everything working out
OK?
Wanna talk about [another address] as well?
Still feel like playing?
This is coming up on game overtime. Figure it out. Your playbook is known."
A few days later, using the same screen name, "O'Brien" wrote:
"[Cohodes address]
[Cohodes son] doing well today, I trust?"
There were other, similar messages, and not all of them under the same screen name. As it happens, Cohodes' son was born with cerebral palsy and gets around in a wheelchair. The message board carried links to a picture of Cohodes' house and his son.
In other messages, "O'Brien" asked readers for the home address of Herb Greenberg, the columnist at our sister organization MarketWatch.Com.
Yahoo! eventually pulled the messages from the Novastar board, but you can still find messages from August 2002 that attacked Cohodes on the Yahoo! message board for ESS Technology. That's when Barron's quoted the hedge-fund investor on the business problems facing ESS, a manufacterer of chips for DVD players. Cohodes was right, and the stock has since dropped from 13 to 3. At the time, Cohodes asked a judge to order Yahoo! to identify the writers of the anonymous threat, but the judge declined-saying the threats were harmless rhetoric.
Cohodes and his family feel endangered by the latest Yahoo! board threats, and only a callous person could disagree. "Are you threatening to kidnap them, are you threatening to kill them...what's the deal?" Cohodes says about his anonymous stalker. "A guy threatening a severely disabled kid is pretty low."
I asked "O'Brien" how his messages could be read as anything but threats. At first, "O'Brien" denied that Cohodes had been threatened. When I forwarded copies of the threats, O'Brien didn't give a responsive answer. Instead, he offered "context," saying his friends had been abused in anonymous messages that he blames on Cohodes.
Why he blames Cohodes is the scary part, because in his volumes of Internet postings, "O'Brien" shows no evidence that Cohodes and Cohodes' family are anything but the victims of a dangerous-sounding man. I hope that public-safety officials figure out who "O'Brien" is.
Keep up the good work!
5:16 PM
mfairview said...
Funny.. Thank god in today's day and age one does not need to work for a publication or own a publication to get the word out...
It's rather interesting to see how senior editors and field reporters interpret their story given their news feed. Would be interested in hearing how others would interpret it.
http://ncans.net/alpert%20interview.htm
Jesse Eisinger and of course Carol Remond of Wall Sreet Journal deserve kudos for having brought Mr.James Dale Davidson 'out of the closet' so to speak, as either being 'Bob O'Brien' himself or the major financial backer,(with the possible exception of Patrick Byrne),of ncans.net.
Although Motely Fool may have been the first,(and hopefully not the last),to mention James Dale Davidson in context of and with NFI-INFO.NET and NCANS.NET,WSJ's two top notch reporters have humbly done more to expose what may still have many more surprises in store. Motley Fool must take criticism as well for articles that, intentionally or not,have aided and abetted the naked shorting myth,and in so doing,have protected the criminals who have used the claim to mask their own penny stock pump and dump fraud and securities manipulations and possible money laundering activities.
I only hope the SEC,DOJ,FBI,etc. would begin an investigation if journalistic will or interest is lost. Unfortunately I am left to wonder at the political will of Washington,D.C. to investigate itself in light of such heavy weight politicians as Utah's Senator Bennett, at best looking foolish for promoting a worthless penny stock named Global Links as a victim of 'naked shorting', and at worst,perhaps concealing or protecting Beltway insider James Dale Davidson or his Utah constituent Patrick Byrne,son of billionaire Jack Byrne,and feeling a need or desire to cover up for them and perhaps OTHER Beltway or politically connected individuals.Patrick Byrne and his billionaire father of Gieco insurance fame funded an anti-John Edwards campaign on their own to the tune of $1 million as I explained above I believe.
It was Jesse Eisinger's investigating that scared ncansd3 or 'Bob O'Brien' on yahoo's NFI message board into uttering 'james davidson' on June 2 as a major financial contributor and sponser,including of cell phones,and 'a boat' named 'James Davidson. Before that he denied ever hearing of a 'James Davidson' including on ncans.net when William Alpert of Barrons put the question to him directly.
Of course later when he posted his complete email exchange with Eisinger on ncans.net,he xxxx's out all mention of the boat's 'james davidson' name.Eisinger also appears to have gotten some news of a Wells Fargo account in San Diego for ncans.net and their lawyers,Sadr and Barrera.
The WSJ/Eisiger Email Echange,take this link and scroll down:
http://bobosrevenge.blogspot.com/2005_06_01_bobosrevenge_archive.html
James Angel formerly of Haas School of Business at the University of California at Berkeley and now Georgetown starred in the infomercial with Mary Campbell Helburn and Utah Senator Bennett.I informed him that the only address for the organization appeared to be a striptease joint whose owners were accused of bribing San Diego city council members.I also asked him to provide one example of a company seriously injured by 'naked shorting'.So far,no answer.The Cheetah Club also has the distinction of being the only lap dance club I know of investigated by the FBI under the Patriot Act,by the way,very strange indeed.
Note the latest 'biotech' penny stock scam Mr. Davidson is involved,Amenni,has Saudi and Dubai investment ties an has connections.And no doubt if this new pump and dump meets an office in Dubai. Mr.Davidson will have stolen from more naive Americans(such as myself) to benefit himself and the Saudis.This is a Beltway 'patriot' ?
James Dale Davidson,Dubai,and penny stock connections:
http://www.offshorebusiness.com/message_board.asp?search=amenni&submit=S...
Or go to http://www.offshorebusiness.com message board and do search 'bellador' or 'amenni'.
FROM YAHOO NFI BOARD JUNE 2 IN WHICH 'ncansd3' or 'BOB O'BRIEN' HINTS OF JAMES DALE DAVIDSON CONNECTION FOR FIRST TIME:
Re: Send, or not? Comment, or copy? RVA
by: ncansd3
Long-Term Sentiment: Strong Buy 06/02/05 12:02 am
Msg: 310727 of 333497
I would add that copies of emails in which Mr. Eisinger cites very granular banking info regarding NCANS deposits are available if they wish to email me.
What is actually funniest to me is that through all of this, the reporter hasn't considered that he might have found a guy who contributes to NCANS and has used his cash to help the cause - but is someone different than me. Someone who actually has been very helpful with things like procuring anonymous cell phones and the like, but is no more Bob O'Brien than the Granny he went to terrorize. Oh well, I'm sure it will all make great theater, and the attorneys are likely to have a ball with it. Like I said in the beginning - they require a Bob O'Brien at all costs, and it really doesn't matter much whether he is the genuine article or not at the end of the day.
And I'm not telling - not going to do it. Kind of pisses everyone off, I can tell. Sorry guys. But I'm quite sure you have the right guy - keep on keeping on - he sounds like a bad 'un to me. Very mysterious. I was told a sandwich shop was involved. One shudders to think what goes on there. And a boat. I think it's named the James Davidson. It is all unclear at present. Or maybe the sandwiches are subs - those are marine sounding.
Actually, I do kind of wish it was me. Not that it isn't. Or is. Or may be. Or not.
But what I do know is that violating federal laws is a no no last time I checked - and if what they discovered was a big donor to the cause - I hope it was worth someone going to jail over. That's what happens when you violate federal law, I think - I haven't done any federal lawbreaking, so couldn't tell you.
So what do we have at the end of all of this? People who can easily be shown to do anything it takes to get their way, regardless of the law, and who aren't bright enough to get that they are holding nothing. Capital N. Nada. Which they will ultimately find out, as do most who have nothing, over time. In the meanwhile, I think maybe this will be a good mechanism to launch the fiction book - it's about a corrupt, criminally linked hedge fund who sets out to crush a company as part of its serial killing mechanism, who uses the press to do its dirty work and considers itself above the law due to its political contacts, and decides to go after a guy that creates a website that exposes their scheme and creates considerable difficulty for them. I even have a corrupt reporter or two in it. Sort of wrote itself. I think it's a good read. Fast, and believe it or not, has a few similarities to real life.
Have to figure out how to get it out there. I suspect now is the time.
Oh well, good night all. Thanks for all the FBI and WSJ complaints - they will follow up, and they don't just poo poo this sort of thing when it involves attorney trust accounts and feloniously obtained bank records.
We shall see what the day brings.
Posted as a reply to: Msg 310685 by rvac106
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James Dale Davidson in his own words about his 'naked short' securities frauds and penny stock pump and dump activity.Although to promote a stock for purpose of dumping shares is illegal,the SEC looks the other way.I am the 'crazy dog' of his obsessions and was posting on ragingbull.com as did others to warn about his anti-naked short fraud 'NAANSS' used to divert attention of naive investors from the act that it was him dumping shares and not brokers 'naked shorting'.Mr.Davidson was founder of Agora Publications that has touted numerous questionable penny stocks over years years and has numerous websites and mail fraud scams.Agora even promoted CIA invested penny stock Ionatron that CIA insiders dumped :
http://www.vantagepoint-ia.com/Secure/IssueArchive/html%20ve…
Lies, Lies, Lies: Stalkers Meet the Stock Market
It is hard to imagine a retiree or a housewife with time on her hands suddenly deciding to make a hobby of posting anonymous slanders on the GeneMax thread. But one can read dozens of embittered messages there complaining of everything but the real problem. For example, some bozo whose screen name translates to "crazy dog" recently posted an outrageous slander of me: "Does Davidson, as founder of National Taxpayers Union, ever pay taxes on fraud pump-dumps he"s orchestrated using "naked shorting" as a subterfuge to mask his fraud?" In one sentence he manages to falsely imply that I have engaged in a whole range of felonies. I don"t know whether to feel flattered that the naked short sellers find me so formidable an opponent that they would stoop to anonymous smears, or to hire a bodyguard.
In any event, I would hope that Mr. "crazy dog" is well paid for his pains. With the possible exception of a few demented people I"ve crossed paths with, I can"t imagine anyone other than stalkers and major parishioners of naked short selling being so obsessed with me. And what humanitarian motive could explain the smears they pour down on GeneMax - a company that if it can raise sufficient funding may possibly help cure cancer? Go figure.
The Electronic Counterfeiter"s Worst Nightmare:
Circle Group Holdings Rallies 30,000%
The worst nightmare of naked short sellers is that the companies they attack should survive and actually succeed. When that happens, as recently occurred in the case of Circle Group Holdings Inc. (CXN: AMEX), the counterfeiters are obliged to enter the market and buy the duly authorized shares of the capital stock of the company they have sold. CXN rose by nearly 30,000%, from 3 cents to almost $9, as naked short sellers were obliged to buy and deliver shares they counterfeited prior to CXN"s move to the AMEX.
When you think of what happened in the case of Circle Group Holdings, you can see why the malicious charges leveled against me by anonymous smear-mongers on Web sites are ridiculous. If their assertions that I was orchestrating naked short selling were correct, I would hardly have become one of the leading critics of the practice. Nor would I continue to champion the causes of the companies I had "sent under" by allegedly selling wave after wave of electronically counterfeited stock.
And as the example of CXN demonstrates, the damage done to the share prices of companies targeted for destruction by electronic counterfeiters is also a measure of their upside potential - for everyone but the counterfeiters.
Of course, even the most virulent rantings of Mr. "crazy dog" are unlikely to carry much weight with thinking people. To orchestrate more effective smears, the electronic counterfeiters needed a more apparently credible platform. An Internet site called our-street. com emerged to fill the market arising from naked short sellers for seemingly trustworthy smears of small-cap companies that threaten to succeed.
Thus for one reason or another, our-street. com and its marquee character, who writes under the pseudonym Nick Tracy, stepped up to service this
market. Our-street immediately began hurling accusations about securities violations left and right. I first became aware of Nick Tracy and his tendentious exposés when someone sent me a copy of an hysterical attack he did on ChampionLyte Products (CPLY: OTCBB) , a company in which I and a group of investors took a portfolio interest as it attempted to restructure its balance sheet and realize the potential of its low-carb sports drink.
James Davidson,Vantage Point
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My correspondence with Davidson and threats from O'Brien
by Tony Ryals Sunday October 02, 2005 at 10:07 AM
endoscam@lycos.com
In 2004 I decided to finally contact Mr.James Dale Davidson personallY,as the Endovasc fraud continued and the SEC did nothing.Below is that correspondence which,in my opinion,might be used by a plagiarisn expert along with James Dale Davidson's fraudulent penny stock promotions found in Agora's 'Vantage Point' or elsewhere to discover if there is a link between Davidson and 'Bob O'Brien' or 'NAANSS' and 'NCANS'.
My correspondence with Mr.James Dale Davidson himself:
Note James Dale Davidson founded 'NAANSS'to mask his own share dumping after illegally using his many internet websites and use of the mail to send out his fraudulent promotions of his many penny stock scams.Note he continues to blather on and on about electronic trading creating counterfit shares.And it's all a lie to mask his share-money laundering operation.
James Dale Davidson replies:
By tony ryals on 3/20/2004 8:10:43 PM
E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com
'James Dale Davidson' answers,or avoids answering,as the case may be, Ryals email:
Dear Mr. Ryals,
Who are you? I infer from your rantings below that you are delusional. But perhaps more than that? Perhaps you are malicious, and in the employ of electronic counterfeiters who have feasted on the corpses of small public companies ever since the advent of electronic clearing? I can think of no other motivation that would explain your letter. By and large, normal people do not sit around inventing malicious fantasies about someone they don't even know.
Obviously, you have your own agenda, so you are unlikely to be swayed by anything I might say. I recognize that. But for what it's worth, I have never been involved in any "pump and dump" exercise. For the record, you have been warned. I would advise you not to repeat your malicious slanders in a public forum, or I shall be obliged to take legal action for redress.
Sincerely,
James Davidson
P.S. By the way, your search for a company I have been involved with which was a success for its investors could not have been very diligent. As it happens, there was a long op ed piece in the Washington Post this week by a small investor who made so much money following my advice that filing his taxes had become a burden for him.
Tony Ryals wrote:
Dear Mr.James Dale Davidson,
I have meant to contact you for some time regarding my Endovasc 'investment'.I have no idea when you left the 'company' but by the time you did it had dumped millions of shares while fraudulently claiming the 'shareholder value' was the result of Schwab's,Ameritrade's, Refco's,et.al.'s, 'naked shorting.Was 'famed trial attorney O'Quinn'perhaps misled to believe that all those shares were the result of 'naked shorting' rather than the apparent pump dump operation it turned to be ?
I also noted you were greatly responsible for founding the 'naanss' group that blamed most shareholder penny stock losses on 'naked shorting'.Is this just a smoke screen for defrauding Americans and laundering their money through massive share dumping that cannot easily be tracked ? Was the account Mr.Cantrell set up at Schwab with an insider for millions of seemingly free shares a part of your November 2002 pump dump ?
I have looked continuously for a company you have been involved with that was a success for its shareholder-investors. And you know I can't seem to find one although for some reason you always appear to have pumped and dumped the stock through your own myriad publications. Sometimes I believe 'The Soveriegn Individual'explains your own modus operendi of using the internet for anonymously influencing naive investors to buy while you dump the shares you have gotten for free from penny stock 'management' and then use your offshore shells including 'LOM' anmd 'New Paradigm' among many others to hide launder that money you stole from Americans so as not to pay taxes on the theft.That is doubly humorous and fraudulent coming from one who pretends to be an American patriot,even involving yourself in political intrigue,and who prides in having founded the 'National Taxpayers Union'.
Also you have claimed publically the the 'SEC lies'. This I will not comment on but to say they rarely say anything at all.And only through 'freedom of information act' can you get a thing out of them. However you also tell me in your 'Vantage Point'that you received a few shares of Endovasc by way of a 'nicotine patent'that you applied for with 'Dr.Summers.Could you please inform me what the patent number is or was it approved ? Then at another time you claim to have a 'substantial' holding of Endovasc shares through an unidentified source.Was this as a 'consultant'or what,I really don't understand.You see the only reason I 'invested' in 2001 was because of the Stanford nicotine patent for angiogenesis.Now if you left another as you claim in exchange for shares I would like to know about it.
Finally, as an off topic from my Endovasc losses due to a fraudulent pump dump, I would like to ask if you still think Bill Clinton murdered your former employee, CIA Chief Willam Colby ? Try as I might I cannot find any statement from Mr.Colby re the death of Vince Foster nor any reason to believe he agreed with you that Bill Clinton killed his own friend.
Sincerely,
Tony Ryals
James'Fraud'Davidson and MOD Ventures:
27 N. Summerlin Ave.
Orlando,Florida 32801
James Dale Davidson jamesd@attglobal.net
Private Investor, Entrepreneur, Analyst and Author. Mr. Davidson
has extensive experience in entrepreneurial executive management/venture
finance. Author, with Lord William Rees-Mogg, Blood in the Streets:
Investment Profits in a World Gone Mad, The Great Reckoning, and
The Sovereign Individual: Mastering the Transition to the Information
Age. Founder of Agora Publishing, The Hulbert Financial Digest,
and Strategic Investment. Director of Pickering & Chatto Publishers,
London. Principal of The Fleet Street Press. Founder (natural resource
companies) Oroperu, Sedna Geotech, Ouro Brasil, Oro Argentina, Consolidated
African Holdings, Anatolia Minerals Development Corporation. President,
New Paradigm Capital, a private merchant bank based in Bermuda,
a former director of Banco Comafi S.A., Buenos Aires, Argentina
and Cardlink Worldwide, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil. Current North American
technology and Internet related affiliations: BestTransport, Mariah
Vision3, Interactive Retail Management, Internet Transactions Transnational,
NewsMax Media, Advanced Power Devices, Packetup Corporation, Stardata,
and CyGene. Founder, MIVI Therapeutics and GeneMax Pharmaceuticals.
Chairman, Wharekauhau Holdings Ltd., Featherston, New Zealand, Director,
Martinborough Vineyards, Martinborough, New Zealand, and Palliser
Properties, Ltd, Auckland, Deputy Chairman, BEVsystems, Founder
and Director, New World Premium Brands, Auckland, New Zealand (winery roll-up and distribution).
Re: James Dale Davidson replies:
By tony ryals on 3/21/2004 3:41:57 PM
E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com
My Ryals,
You don't identify yourself. Really, that is rather uncivil, though hardly more uncivil than your initial missive which accuses me of a number of felonies of which I know I am innocent. Under the circumstances, I have no interest in keeping up an extended correspondence with you, given that you have made it quite clear that you are prejudiced against me and prepared to leap to conclusions which are remote from the facts.
That said, I doubt that you have a claim against me over the patent I applied for in conjunction with Dr. Summers, as Endovasc signed a substantial contract with a major nutraceutical firm to market the product. This has all been announced. As to being proud of it, yes, I am. It was a valid insight that has been confirmed in human and animal testing.
Sincerely,
James Davidson
Tony Ryals wrote:
Dear Mr. James Dale Davidson,
I appreciate your attempt at a reply but other than your name calling there was a total disregard for the questions I posed.Others,than you or I, who are both biased as to whether your 'Vantage Point' Endovasc articles are pump dumps,can deal with that.
I, as an 'investor' in Endovasc long before you appeared,would just like to focus on the nicotine patent you wrote with Dr.Summers.Remember that you proudy announced that you had co-patented it with Dr.Summers in 'Vantage Point' in 2002 when the stock was being featured in 'Vantage Point' ? Where can I find the number of this patent ? And just how many shares did it cost us, the humble naive investors who bought our shares the old fahioned way ,through those dirty naked shorting mms such as Charles Schwab ? You are more sophistiated re securities than I so you might help me locate this tranacton in SEC filings or fill me in as to why such minor details are not requred in SEC filings.
Your assistance in locating this patent that all EVSC INVESTORS ARE MOST PROUD OF IS MOST APPRECIATED.
Sincerely,
Tony Ryals
James Dale Davidson proud of securities frauds:
By tony ryals on 3/25/2004 5:23:40 PM
E-mail: tryals@angelfire.com
Dear Mr. Ryals,
Needless to say, I regret that you lost money in Endovasc or, indeed, in any investment. That said, your fixation on exploring this issue with me is entirely misplaced. By your own admission, you did not invest in Endovasc on my say-so. In the somewhat patchy account of your complaint that emerges between the lines of your demanding and unpleasant communication, I find no logical nexus between your losses and any action of mine. In pure logic, I cannot see how applying for a patent could have destroyed your investment, or exposed it to any material harm whatever. In the absence of any disclosure on your part, I owe you none. And none you will get. If you think you have a claim against me, contact my lawyer, whose e-mail address is listed above.
Otherwise, I will treat your further communications as spam in the same category as a certificate for a $10 savings on any Teddy Bear purchased in April, notice of a free poetry contest, something about "Ronald Reagan's greatest laughs," and the inevitable promise to enlarge my penis by "up to five inches guaranteed." Att is sending through a lot of malarkey, including too much from you. You have not behaved as a gentleman in any respect in our correspondence. I won't miss hearing from you.
Sincerely,
James Davidson
Tony Ryals wrote:
Dear James Dale Davidson,
Is this your way of saying no patent exists ? All I asked was for the patent number, or if it is still pending,the date it was applied for.I would presume this patent is part of the pink sheet 'evsc' branch as that is the entity I presume is related to the $1.5 million something or other.Sure I would like to know how many shares were given to you for the patent as well.
Also I am glad for you that Stanford did not challenge it as it appears it may be covered in their own patents.Stanford angiogenesis patent by the way can be located on internet.As I lost 99% of my 'share value' due to supposed 'naked shorts'I would at least like to have full disclosure re this patent.
You and the doctor must have a copy describing the patent. May I see it ?
Sincerely,
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Senator Bennett,penny stock scam,Cheetah Club
http://sandiego.indymedia.org/en/2005/07/110190.shtml
Senator Bennett :Is Patrick Byrne's NCANS a Fraud ?
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883.php
Are You James Dale Davidson ?
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11884
My correspondence with Davidson and threats from O'Brien
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11885
A Dozen Answers From Dr. Byrne
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11892
Byrne on coke,gay bath houses and al qaeda
http://utah.indymedia.org/news/2005/10/11883_comment.php#11896
Schwab LOM and share-mony laundering
http://sfbay.indymedia.org/news/2005/06/1747107.php
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