Markets,Mobs and Messiah's:NY Times promotes Agora Inc. Parasites-Zombies Bill Bonner, Lila Rajiva and their Financial Frauds
More BS Icame across from Lila Rajiva if that's really its name because there don't seem to be many Rajivas in India.Both Agora Inc prostitute and Agora Inc pimp Bill Bonner are the scum of the earth and they are both so stupid as well as con artists it would be laughable and the only reason they have not both been rounded up and taken off the internet for their fraudulent financial scams though Agora Inc and Agora Finmancial and thedailyreckong or dailyreckong,(they even have one siter with 'th' and one without to spam their fraudulent trash on potentials MARKS AND SUCKERS),etxc., is because they are prortected by the corrupt U.AS.SEC and the U.S.government irtself just as Agora Inc cion artists James Dale Davidson,Porter Stansberry and the rest of the Agora Inc sleaze are with their UK and other elite international FINANCIAL CRIMINAL CONNECTIONS.Thei are obviously stupid and any real government would have had them in jail for fraud by now and th4y think because they aren't they are clever.
Note Lila throws out so much bs and lies even she has trouble keeping up which is defintitely a characteristic of Agora Inc. 'professionals' or 'Zombies' to use a term Bill Bonner like to banter about.Here is another from Lila's mindbodypolitic.con website:
More BS Icame across from Lila Rajiva if that's really its name because there don't seem to be many Rajivas in India.Both Agora Inc prostitute and Agora Inc pimp Bill Bonner are the scum of the earth and they are both so stupid as well as con artists it would be laughable and the only reason they have not both been rounded up and taken off the internet for their fraudulent financial scams though Agora Inc and Agora Finmancial and thedailyreckong or dailyreckong,(they even have one siter with 'th' and one without to spam their fraudulent trash on potentials MARKS AND SUCKERS),etxc., is because they are prortected by the corrupt U.AS.SEC and the U.S.government irtself just as Agora Inc cion artists James Dale Davidson,Porter Stansberry and the rest of the Agora Inc sleaze are with their UK and other elite international FINANCIAL CRIMINAL CONNECTIONS.Thei are obviously stupid and any real government would have had them in jail for fraud by now and th4y think because they aren't they are clever.
Note Lila throws out so much bs and lies even she has trouble keeping up which is defintitely a characteristic of Agora Inc. 'professionals' or 'Zombies' to use a term Bill Bonner like to banter about.Here is another from Lila's mindbodypolitic.con website:
5. False. My contract on the book was with John Wiley and the only thing Agora Inc. paid for was my editorial and research/PR work for Mr. Bonner, while I was writing the book. I stopped being paid by them shortly after the book was published. I was mostly out of the country while the book was being written. I have never been paid by Agora to write anything since the book came out.
[Correction: since November 2011, two months after the book came out].-Lila RAJIVA
Huh ? If I read correctly, Lila says she 'stopped being paid by them',(Agora Inc), 'shortly after the book was published.'Well the book was published August 31, 2007 and they've promoted it with the enthusiasm they generally reserve for their scammiest and most fraudulent penny stock or 'financial instruments' ever since therm paerticularly on the fraud promoting Christian Science Monitor website ! Then as you can see she says, 'Correction: since November 2011, two months after the book came out].-Lila RAJIVA The book didn't 'COME OUT' in 2011 it came out in 2007 !Like I saids ALL Agora Inc 'employees' and ex employees are lieing con artists and unlike Lila Rajiva I have never worked for them,only been defrauded by them !
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More Rajiva bs continued:
Take a look at what’s on my blog. Do you think any company in the mainstream financial world would pay me to write the kind of stuff I do?
6. My boss was James Dale Davidson, notorious for front-running stocks andpromoting the “Vince Foster was murdered” (by Bill Clinton) theory.
(Note Agora Inc founder and NTU founder James Dale Davidson was one of Bill Clinton's biggest and most enthusiastic backers during his first presidential campaign- Tony Ryals)
6. False. My bosses were Addison Wiggin and then Bill Bonner. I barely interacted with anyone else, besides a few administrators. I had no problems with the latter, for the most part, but several with the former, which is why I left.
(June 5 2012: Correction: I did have problems with Bonner, after the manuscript was done and when promotion began. Those problems had to do with his not keeping his word to me about citing me correctly and giving me joint attribution on the DR. He blamed his inability to do that on Wiggin.
Wiggin of course told me that it was Bonner who was dropping my name.
I came to the conclusion finally that they were simply colluding to keep me confused, possibly as a way to foil any legal action I might take. They needn’t have worried. As I repeatedly told Mr. Bonner, any outfit that could publicly post the kinds of things they did about me over a misunderstanding that I always tried to work out peacefully, was not one I wanted to tangle with.
Then, after having waited months to get the paperwork, I was suddenly told to sign a foreign rights contract giving the publisher leeway to drop all credit to me.
They waited to do this when I was traveling abroad and had no access to a lawyer. It was at that point I also learned that Mr. Bonner was not the CEO of the company, as he’d told me. This came as a bit of a shock to me, although it explained why Wiggin seemed to enjoy more power over Agora Financial than the description “PR guy” would warrant.
I later found that the CEO was someone called Myles Norin)..........
To be clear, I don't know Porter Stansberry and have never met him. I have not even subscribed to his newsletter. At one time, I subscribed to True Wealth(written by Steve Sjuggerud), and I found it quite useful and reasonably priced. I have seen Stansberry once, at a work conference. I have never spoken or corresponded with him, and he worked in a completely different division. I've also subscribed to a letter by James Boric, which was informative and very low-key. Among their analysts, I have thought well of Boric, Dan Denning, Sjuggerud, Kevin Kerr, Chuck Butler, and Christoph Amberger, among others. I thought they were honorable people.
Back to the story. I was hired at Agora between November, 2005 and January, 2006.
During that time, I was also traveling and promoting my first book and working on an article for another book ("One of the Guys," Seal Press). I was also getting ready to go abroad.
In fact, I was out of the country for most of 2006. That too is well-documented, from official and personal records.
What could I have to do with whatever was going on in Baltimore that year? Nothing.
More sliming by Ryals.
In 2007, after difficulties over promotion and attribution of the book which was released in 2007, I decided to leave. By that time, I'd had to research dozens of pieces to find out who wrote what in the Daily Reckoning columns, some of which were used for Mr. Bonner's part of the book. That led to research into previous Agora books. The company's somewhat loose attitude toward attribution and ongoing changes in copyright. For instance, Wiggin originally didn't have copyright to Empire of Debt and Financial Reckoning Day, but soon after he found out that I'd got copyright, the copyrights to those two books were changed to include him).
Added, June 5, 2012. I notice that the first editions of the two books are no longer being advertised on Amazon, as they were until very recently. So you can't check inside to see the original copyright notice. But you can still find the original editions in print and look it up.
This had me worried that I might have incorporated material that was actually written by some previous co-author who hadn't been fully attributed.
Going back into Agora's history, I then saw some articles and statements showing that Mr. Davidson had been involved as recently as 2004.
This led me to think about what Tony Ryals had written to me about Davidson. So I dropped a note to him in 2007. At that point, seeing my book and my pieces in support of Ron Paul, Ryals flew into a rage and started attacking me as a "stock fraud," "con artist," and "bimbo," all over the web, even though I wrote back to him at length explaining that I'd never written any newsletters there or sold stocks, beyond a few investment notes that you can read below. He must have sent a dozen vulgar emails just to my blog. I still have a few of them. He then went all over the web, calling me a stock fraud, for no other reason than that I'd written the book with Bonner.
The only investment report I wrote was one in 2006, for Money Week, recommending that people sell Goldman Sachs. That was the prototype of all the fashionable "Short Goldman" political and financial columns being tossed around today. Writing that in 2006 was a whole different ball game.
[To give credit where it's due, it was not my idea to turn the Goldman research into an investment report. I was actually researching Goldman for "Mobs," when I was in Argentina. I mentioned this to Mr. Bonner, who was also suspicious of Goldman's trading success. Around that time, Mr. Bonner was also trying to get me to do more interesting work than editing and he suggested I write up my research as an investment report on Goldman Sachs. This I did and a part of it was published as a cover story by Agora affiliate/subsidiary, Money Week, a prestigious English business magazine. Later, the report was sold through another newsletter, under Wiggin's assistant's name without my permission.]
Apparently, the assignment sparked off resentment against me in the company so that for most of 2006-07, some individuals there were intent on defaming me, undermining my work, or otherwise making it difficult for me to continue.Nonetheless, I was offered a position, which I refused, and Mr. Bonner did write me a good testimonial, although I didn’t use it.
Let me be clear. I no longer feel a need to revisit this issue.
The only reason I do it is because of the malicious lies Ryals keeps publishing about me at every turn, with the clear intention of smearing me by association. He has also, apparently, posted under my name on a libertarian blog.
As I mentioned before, Mr. Bonner did apologize for what happened in 2007 and a few months ago wrote me an apology about a recent attribution issue.
For me, this is enough.
The case is closed.
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It's hard to say what is most ludricrous about Agora Inc.'s,thedailyreckoning.com and Bill Bonner's hack writer and internet dirty tricks co-author Lila Rajiva of Mobs,Markets and Messiahs'.Her or its latest bs about me who was defrauded by the very 'company',Agora Inc,that she was employed by in 2005 when she and her Agora colleague, Porter Stansberry, wrote to me in 2005 with the intention of shutting me up about the fraud that was and STILL IS Agora Inc.,is posted below.I have been posting about her and her sleazy companions of Agora Inc a lot lately in response to her comments and lies as usual,about me on her blog,mindbodypolitic.con.One year after the email from her and Porter Stansberry followed by her disclosure that she had written not as a disinterested writer but really as an employee of Agora Inc. one of their fellow Agora Inc. employees,Rey Rivera, 'mysteriously' fail to his death from atop the Belvedere Hotel in Baltimore,Anyway today I note the blog below posted by her only on the 6th of this month has been disappeared by her,something she oten does,so it is even more valid I repost it here.What you can take for granted about the term 'messiahs' in the title of Bonner's and Rajiva's book is that every member of Agora Inc fraudulently promote themselves as some sort of stock market or commodities trading guru or 'messiah', from James Dale Davidson who pioneered the bloated ego to Porter Stansberry who who claims to have 'predicted' more financial crisis social crisis than James Davidson and Nostradamus combined.
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It may have been no coincidence between that death of Rey Rivera and the fact that his name had been placed on Porter Stansberry's latest penny stock fraud promoton rag called 'The Rebound Report' at that time,and that none of the sleazy pump and dump 'public companies' it promoted 'rebounded' from their worthless share prices anymore than Rey Rivera 'rebounded' when he crashed through the roof of the building below the Belvedere Hotel, but instead plunged even lower thus defrauding anyone who took their advise to buy !
Now I see this statement on Lila's Googled blog but can't find the statement when I go to her blog.I presume she is saying that she was 'served me with a Breach of Separation Agreement ' but then again she has been bringing Agora Inc.'s Stai Nazi,Christof Amberberger,I feel Amberger could tell us alot about the Israeli-Austrian billionaire Martin Schlaff,who like the Agora folk has a few skeletions in his closet as well,including deals with Russia President Vladmir Putin and of course about Schlaff's sidekicks in U.S.penny stock fraud and money lñaundering,the Grin or Grishpon brthers,David,Eugene and Abraham,who also have an Agora Inc.-James Dale Davidson connection.Don't believe a word that Lila tells you about Agora and Bill Bonner having sent her a 'Breach of Separation Agreement' being a sign of her integrity.THE PROSTITUITE LILA RAJIVA HAS CLUNG TO AGORA AND BONNER LIKE HER PIMP FOR LIFE AS LONG AS SHE COULD AND ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF HOPING TO MILK A BIT MORE OF THE MONEY THEY STOLE FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME TO PUT INTO HER ROTHSCHILD GOLDVAULT ACCOUNT IN THE UK,ETC.!And note that the Christian Science Monitor has bee taken over by the criminals of Agora Inc and are promoted in the 'newspaper' or digital rag even more than the white 'Jewish'
scum of the NY Times promote them ,just as they of course promoted the post 9/11 lie for W Bush and his Zionist dominated regime that Sadam Hussein had all those 'WMDS' and was coming for us in UAV's or 'drones,sometrhing that in retrospect it was 'coinciodentally' the U.S. and Israeli military industrial complex was developing all the time without telling the public !
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It may have been no coincidence between that death of Rey Rivera and the fact that his name had been placed on Porter Stansberry's latest penny stock fraud promoton rag called 'The Rebound Report' at that time,and that none of the sleazy pump and dump 'public companies' it promoted 'rebounded' from their worthless share prices anymore than Rey Rivera 'rebounded' when he crashed through the roof of the building below the Belvedere Hotel, but instead plunged even lower thus defrauding anyone who took their advise to buy !
Now I see this statement on Lila's Googled blog but can't find the statement when I go to her blog.I presume she is saying that she was 'served me with a Breach of Separation Agreement ' but then again she has been bringing Agora Inc.'s Stai Nazi,Christof Amberberger,I feel Amberger could tell us alot about the Israeli-Austrian billionaire Martin Schlaff,who like the Agora folk has a few skeletions in his closet as well,including deals with Russia President Vladmir Putin and of course about Schlaff's sidekicks in U.S.penny stock fraud and money lñaundering,the Grin or Grishpon brthers,David,Eugene and Abraham,who also have an Agora Inc.-James Dale Davidson connection.Don't believe a word that Lila tells you about Agora and Bill Bonner having sent her a 'Breach of Separation Agreement' being a sign of her integrity.THE PROSTITUITE LILA RAJIVA HAS CLUNG TO AGORA AND BONNER LIKE HER PIMP FOR LIFE AS LONG AS SHE COULD AND ALL FOR THE PURPOSE OF HOPING TO MILK A BIT MORE OF THE MONEY THEY STOLE FROM PEOPLE LIKE ME TO PUT INTO HER ROTHSCHILD GOLDVAULT ACCOUNT IN THE UK,ETC.!And note that the Christian Science Monitor has bee taken over by the criminals of Agora Inc and are promoted in the 'newspaper' or digital rag even more than the white 'Jewish'
scum of the NY Times promote them ,just as they of course promoted the post 9/11 lie for W Bush and his Zionist dominated regime that Sadam Hussein had all those 'WMDS' and was coming for us in UAV's or 'drones,sometrhing that in retrospect it was 'coinciodentally' the U.S. and Israeli military industrial complex was developing all the time without telling the public !
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2 days ago – To: lilarajiva. Just in case you still have doubts about my “links” to Agora. They just served me with a Breach of Separation Agreement ...
In light of NY Times and the Arthur Ochs Sulzberger German Jewish and Zionist war and financial crimes family that run it,if they promote Agora Inc because it really does have Rothschild connections just as other entitities with the name Agora have been found to have Rothschild crime family connections ?
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Mar 22, 2004 – New York Times publisher Arthur Sulzberger Jr. was asked at a ... about Judith Miller and her reporting on weapons of mass destruction(in pre-invasion Iraq)....
This is what I posted on my blog about Agora Inc.'s Bill Bonner and his 'free' pr over the years from Sulzberger's NY Times a while back.:
http://wolfblitzzer0.blogspot.com/2012/04/bill-bonneragora-incproof-that-new-york.html
Bill Bonner,Agora Inc.:Proof that New York Times Arthur Sulzberger, Paul Krugman, involved in Israeli International Stock Fraud Money Laundering Against Americans by Tony Ryals
James Dale Davidson, and NOT Bill Bonner,(as erroneously claimed by The New Times' article about Mr.William Bonner's Saint Simon mansion in France below), is the real founder of CIA and stock fraud money laundering connected Baltimore,Maryland based Agora Inc 'holding' company. James Dale DSavidson aka James Davidson in SOME SEC FILINGS ETC., is also the founder of the far right wing newsmax.com that is occasionally cited or promoted by Rupert Murdoch's Fox 'News' channel.Davidson has always claimed to be founder of Agora Inc.with its web of interconnected scammy websites that mainly tout penny stocks or other mortgage gold or other financial frauds and are VERY connected to the CIA as William Colby's employment there before his mysterious death in the 1990's attests..Since James or Jim Dale Davidson and Porter Stansberry were taken to court by the SECi n Utah for touting or promoting the 'biotech' penny stocks Endovasc and Genemax as well as the nuclear refining and recovery stock 'USU' or USEC in 2003,using his Agora Inc 'Vantage Point' website and mail promotions,he has been quiet about his claim to having founded Agora Inc..Instead Bill Bonner,a long time associate of James Dale Davidson and accoring to Porter Stansbery,(personal communication), a childhood friend,takes full credit for founding Agora Inc.in his stead.........
also....
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Jan 29, 2012 – Julian Assange,Wikileaks:Veterans Today Editor Gordon Duff is A CIA,George Tenet Prostitute,So is Agora Inc.'s Lila Rajiva ...
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Note the recent rant from Lila Rajiva below to whom in email correspondence in 2005 I told about being defrauded by Agora Inc.'s James Dale Davidson in a 'biotech' pennny stock called Endovasc.Nonetheless she immediately emailed in response that Agora Inc was a very ethical company AND SHE WAS NOW IN THEIR EMPLOY.I suspect she was already in their employ when she forst began the email correspondence to me in the first place.Any fool could veriufy that I have NEVER been an employee of Agora Inc. and that I have been complaining about their frauds and their stock share or 'securities' money laundering activities since at least 2003 including to the U.S.SEC or Securities Exchange Commission that protects them instead of prosecuting them ! It is Lila who lies about such frauds being the victim of so-called 'naked short selling' or counterfeiting of sharers rather than the very real shares that insiders to the fraud dump into the market that the U.S.SEC refuses to audit.She is also connected to Agora Inc - George Tenet friend Gordon Duff of VeteransToday(by way of their past coordinated dirty tricks anti-Julian Asssange-Wikileaks attacks of a while back) who promoted the bombing of innocent civilians in Libya and whose mutual friend Bud Burrell with his Geico BILLIONAIRE SON Partick Byrne Overstock.com connections who also LIED about frauds like Endovasc, CMKX Diamonds,USXP penny stock fraud and Overstock.com,etc.being victims of 'naked short selling' has been threatening my life while Lila the Agora Inc prostitute cheers him on !I HAVE ALSO TOLD LILA TO GIVE ME A COMPLETE LIST OF THE SKKKUM SHE IS CONNECTED WITH AT AGORA BECAUSE UNLIKE HER I DON'T KNOW NOR LIKE ANY OF THEM .I do indeed curse all Agora Scum she mentions below regardless of their Republican or Democrat credentials or with their Libertarian credentials or just regular fascists and money launderers credentials and their crimes against the American and international public ! Note that ex U.S. Congressman Robert Bauman, who she mentions below, is a pedophile as well as money launderer-something that Lila apparently purposely ignores although that was the main purpose of my writing about him in the first place as well as his shady financial activities in Uraguay ! I could care less if he or any of Agora Inc scum was a Republi-con or a Demo-rat !
Note she defends self-admittted Agora Inc gay pedophile Robert Baumer or 'Bob Bauman .....'as much more likely to be an IRS/DOJ honey-pot' ! Huh ?!
The 'woman' Lila Rajiva (or whatever it is),is SICK but that's that's how she-it qualified to be an Agora Inc. employee in the first place and she never deals with the fact that Agora employee Rwey Riverea who appeared to be investigating his employees in 2006 mysteriously 'fell' to his death from the Belvedere Hotel in 2006 !And just what does Agora Inc and National Taxpayers Uniuon founder James Dale Davidson know about the death of his formmer NTU President who was found 'in peace' by unnanamed NTU employees in his house in Washington D.C. a while back Lila Rajiva ? And Chris Amberger is NOT a
WHISTLE BLOWER' Lila - he is an Agora Inc. prostitute just like you ! :
Below from Lila about me:
Subsequent to my posting this, the Agora disinfo agent/troll/paid basher Ryals reposts Amberger’s comments to him (rather than Amberger’s blog posts about Agora), simultaneously discrediting and neutralizing Amberger by an unsubstantiated smear (Nazi Stasi), just as he posts any substantial criticism of Agora, ALWAYS with slurs about the critics and always with OLD NEWS about Agora, usually attributing criminal behavior to the critics, for which he gives not a shred of proof. His response fails to mention the people who really are responsible for Agora’s marketing and selling today - Myles Norin (CEO), Matthew Turner (counsel), Addison Wiggin (chief of Agora Financial, its flagship subsidiary, and also heavily involved in Oxford Group, Michael Masterson (Mark Ford), Byron King, Alexander Greene, Mike Ward, Julia Guth, and many others, whose border-line promotions were all deconstructed by Christoph Amberger. Instead, Ryals tries to discredit Amberger’s whistle-blowing. No question Ryals has some kind of tie to Agora.
To make things clearer, Agora is not solely Bonner’s company but owned by several people, some of whom no doubt have axes to grind with others. Bonner himself might have enemies within the company, for partisan, financial or personal reasons.
Notice how Ryals only focuses on the Republicans in the group, like Bonner, presumably Casey, and Robert Bauman, who specializes in the admirable field of asset protection. Now, unlike the state-worshipping fraud Ryals, I would love to believe Bob Bauman is a really good asset protector (aka money-launderer), but, alas, if he is not what he seems (and I haven’t seen anything concrete to suggest that), he is much more likely to be an IRS/DOJ honey-pot, if I know how these things work.
That’s what I believe large parts of the asset-protection racket really is about, when it’s not about espionage and government-related money-laundering.
That might include the over-hyped Simon Black, who also seems to be a part of the LRC-Agora crew and constantly tells people that Singapore is a great place for financial security, when anyone who even researches the matter in a skimpy way will figure out that Singapore is crawling with Mossad and CIA.
- Lila Rajiva
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The simple fact is that the NY Times can't credibly deny not knowing that Agora Inc,founded by James Dale Davidson and NOT by Bill Bonner as he lyingly claims,hjave been running stock fraud shares money laundering operations for deacades now and are protected with their Washington,D.C. and CIA and SEC connections from prosecurtion which is why it is just another shame and wscandal that the New York Times aids and abets them by promoting their self promotional books whose only purpose is to lure more investors into their lair to be raped robbed and defrauded !
Note the recent rant from Lila Rajiva below to whom in email correspondence in 2005 I told about being defrauded by Agora Inc.'s James Dale Davidson in a 'biotech' pennny stock called Endovasc.Nonetheless she immediately emailed in response that Agora Inc was a very ethical company AND SHE WAS NOW IN THEIR EMPLOY.I suspect she was already in their employ when she forst began the email correspondence to me in the first place.Any fool could veriufy that I have NEVER been an employee of Agora Inc. and that I have been complaining about their frauds and their stock share or 'securities' money laundering activities since at least 2003 including to the U.S.SEC or Securities Exchange Commission that protects them instead of prosecuting them ! It is Lila who lies about such frauds being the victim of so-called 'naked short selling' or counterfeiting of sharers rather than the very real shares that insiders to the fraud dump into the market that the U.S.SEC refuses to audit.She is also connected to Agora Inc - George Tenet friend Gordon Duff of VeteransToday(by way of their past coordinated dirty tricks anti-Julian Asssange-Wikileaks attacks of a while back) who promoted the bombing of innocent civilians in Libya and whose mutual friend Bud Burrell with his Geico BILLIONAIRE SON Partick Byrne Overstock.com connections who also LIED about frauds like Endovasc, CMKX Diamonds,USXP penny stock fraud and Overstock.com,etc.being victims of 'naked short selling' has been threatening my life while Lila the Agora Inc prostitute cheers him on !I HAVE ALSO TOLD LILA TO GIVE ME A COMPLETE LIST OF THE SKKKUM SHE IS CONNECTED WITH AT AGORA BECAUSE UNLIKE HER I DON'T KNOW NOR LIKE ANY OF THEM .I do indeed curse all Agora Scum she mentions below regardless of their Republican or Democrat credentials or with their Libertarian credentials or just regular fascists and money launderers credentials and their crimes against the American and international public ! Note that ex U.S. Congressman Robert Bauman, who she mentions below, is a pedophile as well as money launderer-something that Lila apparently purposely ignores although that was the main purpose of my writing about him in the first place as well as his shady financial activities in Uraguay ! I could care less if he or any of Agora Inc scum was a Republi-con or a Demo-rat !
Note she defends self-admittted Agora Inc gay pedophile Robert Baumer or 'Bob Bauman .....'as much more likely to be an IRS/DOJ honey-pot' ! Huh ?!
The 'woman' Lila Rajiva (or whatever it is),is SICK but that's that's how she-it qualified to be an Agora Inc. employee in the first place and she never deals with the fact that Agora employee Rwey Riverea who appeared to be investigating his employees in 2006 mysteriously 'fell' to his death from the Belvedere Hotel in 2006 !And just what does Agora Inc and National Taxpayers Uniuon founder James Dale Davidson know about the death of his formmer NTU President who was found 'in peace' by unnanamed NTU employees in his house in Washington D.C. a while back Lila Rajiva ? And Chris Amberger is NOT a
WHISTLE BLOWER' Lila - he is an Agora Inc. prostitute just like you ! :
Below from Lila about me:
Subsequent to my posting this, the Agora disinfo agent/troll/paid basher Ryals reposts Amberger’s comments to him (rather than Amberger’s blog posts about Agora), simultaneously discrediting and neutralizing Amberger by an unsubstantiated smear (Nazi Stasi), just as he posts any substantial criticism of Agora, ALWAYS with slurs about the critics and always with OLD NEWS about Agora, usually attributing criminal behavior to the critics, for which he gives not a shred of proof. His response fails to mention the people who really are responsible for Agora’s marketing and selling today - Myles Norin (CEO), Matthew Turner (counsel), Addison Wiggin (chief of Agora Financial, its flagship subsidiary, and also heavily involved in Oxford Group, Michael Masterson (Mark Ford), Byron King, Alexander Greene, Mike Ward, Julia Guth, and many others, whose border-line promotions were all deconstructed by Christoph Amberger. Instead, Ryals tries to discredit Amberger’s whistle-blowing. No question Ryals has some kind of tie to Agora.
To make things clearer, Agora is not solely Bonner’s company but owned by several people, some of whom no doubt have axes to grind with others. Bonner himself might have enemies within the company, for partisan, financial or personal reasons.
Notice how Ryals only focuses on the Republicans in the group, like Bonner, presumably Casey, and Robert Bauman, who specializes in the admirable field of asset protection. Now, unlike the state-worshipping fraud Ryals, I would love to believe Bob Bauman is a really good asset protector (aka money-launderer), but, alas, if he is not what he seems (and I haven’t seen anything concrete to suggest that), he is much more likely to be an IRS/DOJ honey-pot, if I know how these things work.
That’s what I believe large parts of the asset-protection racket really is about, when it’s not about espionage and government-related money-laundering.
That might include the over-hyped Simon Black, who also seems to be a part of the LRC-Agora crew and constantly tells people that Singapore is a great place for financial security, when anyone who even researches the matter in a skimpy way will figure out that Singapore is crawling with Mossad and CIA.
- Lila Rajiva
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The simple fact is that the NY Times can't credibly deny not knowing that Agora Inc,founded by James Dale Davidson and NOT by Bill Bonner as he lyingly claims,hjave been running stock fraud shares money laundering operations for deacades now and are protected with their Washington,D.C. and CIA and SEC connections from prosecurtion which is why it is just another shame and wscandal that the New York Times aids and abets them by promoting their self promotional books whose only purpose is to lure more investors into their lair to be raped robbed and defrauded !
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By Lila Rajiva
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Tags: agora, amberger, blogging, Bonner, davidson, fraud, IP, Mobs, Norin, Ryals, Turner,Wiggin
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Agora Financial’s Daily Reckoning runs Jeffrey Tucker’s original review of “Mobs,” in which he turns me into an editor, while assigning parts of the book written by me to Mr. Bonner.
The wording Tucker uses at Daily Reckoning (Sept. 5, 2012) is the same as the original wording at Laissez Faire books (an Agora subsidiary) on March 10, 2012 that he changed to this revised version, after I objected to the original on March 24.
Of course I have screen shots, but you can see what it looks like by reading the review at DR on Sept. 5, which reads just like the original March 10 review at Laissez Faire Books.
Note the substitution of “editorial help” for “co-authorship” in the Sept.5 review at the Agora website:
“Written by Bill Bonner, [should be: co-authored by] with expert editorial help from Lila Rajiva, the book covers in great detail the transformative decade from the late ’90s to the late 2000s, and therefore chronicles everything crucial to understanding the world as it is today: the digital revolution, the rise of the police state, the move from boom to bust, the end of American economic supremacy, the expansion of imperial violence.”
Again, the review uses a quote from my writing, previously published under my name, and passes it off as Mr. Bonner’s.
This is not only incorrect and unethical, in the context of everything else that’s gone before, it is fraudulent and malicious.
But that seems to be “libertarianism,” ala Agora Inc.
Might makes right …..while quoting Tolstoy.
I’m assuming, of course, that Mr. Tucker isn’t aware of this use of his article. I hope he is not.
Just to give you a quick recap of the history of this strange business, here is the passage about fake news during wartime throughout the Iraq conflict:
“Fake news is not news at all. It’s old news. Storyboarding does to the news what waterboarding does to prisoners — it persuades it to say what you want to hear. Hoodwinking the enemy on a classical battlefield — which follows its own rules of engagement — is one thing. Bamboozling civilians in modern total warfare is rather different. And swindling the crowd cheering at home is something else altogether.
By that standard, American chariot wheels have not just hit the ground. They have gone through it and are burrowing down into Hades. Storyboarding was directed not at the population in Iraq, which is supposed to be a born-again democracy now, anyway. It was aimed at the population back home in America.
Journalists who faked news stories were firing on this pathetic home crowd, making it impossible for the lumps to get even the tiniest scrap of real information about the war, even though they were being asked to give up their children for it. They thought they were volunteering to fight for the republic; they didn’t know they were signing up for the Aztec child sacrifice.”
You can see that it is taken from this piece of mine:
Also published on the web, before that date in 2006.
[I have written several similar pieces on Iraq war propaganda, "Radio Free Iraq" and a whole bunch of others are at the old Dissident Voice archives. You can find them on my blog, under the tab ARTICLES.]
You can see my previous attempts to have incorrect attributions at Agora changed here in 2009 in this post and then here, in this comment on an incorrect attribution.
You can see Mr. Bonner’s responses affirming our agreement about attribution and my authorship of half the material in this blog post (2010), and this blog post.
What’s this new attempt to revise history about?
Well, thinking back, there are two recent posts of mine that might have triggered these new attacks on my IP:
POST Paul-Lehrman Connection Meaningless, Says Daily Bell (August 24) - the update at the top was written AFTER Tony Ryals attacked me again, on August 28 and August 31, and then twice after, though those last two posts have been removed/changed. I suspect that might have been at the request of someone friendly to Agora…..which just shows you that Ryals is a troll favorably disposed to the main operators there, as I’ve always suspected.
The most recent update (one is at the top and then, scroll to the middle for some additional juicy details regarding the “empire-building fantasies” of Mr. Wiggin, whose “issues” started this whole fracas).
The updates mention Agora Financial and ask why Tony Ryals (the guy who has been slandering me since November 2007) should pick on someone who had nothing to do with the company, except for the brief time I spent co-writing the book with Bill Bonner and my editorial work and research at the Daily Reckoning.
The updates suggest that maybe Mr. Ryals has some associates at Agora itself.
I suspect it is this commentary that has triggered the latest bit of IP fraud at Agora.
Too bad, since my updates were intended only as a response to fresh harassment in the form of libelous posts from Mr. Ryals, dated August 3,August 8, August 13, August 28, August 31, Sept 3 and Sept 5. (after lifting, on August 1, a blog post of mine from July, about the link between Chomsky, Rothbard, and Davidson, from the Mises archives).
That’s seven libelous posts about one person in one month…in a series that goes back to November 2007. In total, there are scores of libels, maybe a hundred such or more, and a few other attacks that Ryals instigated against me, before the authors became aware that they were dealing with a troll.
Mr. Ryals seems to have removed the later two posts and added another (dated Sept 5, see above), which mentioned Mr. Christoph Amberger, the senior Agora employee whose running commentary about the company was shut down in 2011.
Those deleted (changed?) posts of Ryals also quote my reference to Mr. Wiggin (Agora Financial chief) and Mr. Myles Norin (CEO), and Mr. Matt Turner (lawyer), by name. You can see them here in the screen shot I took of the Ryals September 5 post, which is now deleted: changed:
Tony Ryals Sept 5 blog comments
I daresay, that was seen as lese majeste.
Mr. Ryals, in any case, came no where near responding to my question, which asked why he never mentions the people really in power at Agora .
That’s the background.
Now here’s Jeffrey Tucker’s Laissez Faire Review (March 10, corrected on March 25, 2012) with his improved attribution.**
**Even this is not accurate, since I didn’t make “co-authored contributions,” but actually wrote about half the book and extensively rewrote and edited Mr. Bonner’s half as well.
“in the spring of 2012, Bill Bonner, founder of Agora Inc., took a break from his daily column in The Daily Reckoning, and, like hundreds of thousands of others, I went through withdrawals. Fortunately, I had a copy of his wonderful book, Mobs, Messiahs and Markets, to devour as I awaited his return.This is a book, written with co-authored contributions from Lila Rajiva, that lifts the fog spread by governments and mainstream media so that we can all see reality for what it is. It covers in great detail the transformative decade from the late ’90s to the late 2000s, and therefore chronicles everything crucial to understanding the world as it is today: the digital revolution, the rise of the police state, the move from boom to bust, the end of American economic supremacy, the expansion of imperial violence.”
So, apparently, Mr. Tucker cared enough for his reputation as a scholar to make a partial correction at Laissez Faire Books, but that has not prevented whoever ran the piece at Agora Financial from using the old version.
So why all these childish shenanigans?
I can guess.
While claiming more than his (Wiggin’s) fair share of credit on Empire Of Debt, 2005 (with Bonner), Wiggin can at the same time polish up his “team spirit” cred by giving the boss more than his (Bonner’s) fair share of credit on a book, in which Mr. Wiggin has no skin involved. That would be “Mobs.”
It’s like the NWO elites and the Muslims.
The elites steal from the Muslims in Israel, where the Palestinians have a just claim against them, and they make up for that by bending over backward for Muslims where Muslim claims are not just, as in Kashmir, where Hindus, rather than the elites, are injured by the revanchism.
Agora Financial seems to be playing the same kind of game.
Not surprising, considering their multiple ties to the elites
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Note that Lila Rajiva makes no mention below of 'conspiracy theorist' Alex Jones other connection to Agora Inc and Porter Stansberry so I place links to that here.:
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Celebrity “alternative”: the case of Alex Jones
An interesting post from FauxCapitalist on the “mainstreaming” of alternative activists. You can also call this commodification of dissent or dissent-porn:“For someone who is, by his own words, allegedly one of the biggest threats to the New World Order, Alex Jones certainly has some high-powered connections into mainstream media, as mostly vividly demonstrated by his February 28, 2011 appearance on The View.
His June 8, 2012 Infowars.com article, Alternative Media Becoming Mainstream, may have been a sign of things to come, given this celebrity lineup in the two months since, as shown on his prisonplanet.tv show archives:
Richard Belzer – August 16
“Alex is also joined by actor, stand-up comedian and author Richard Belzer. Mr. Belzer has an expansive career as an actor and has appeared in NBC police dramas such as Homicide: Life on the Street and Law & Order: Special Victims Unit.”
John Rocker – August 15
“On the Wednesday, August 15 edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex talks with John Rocker, the retired American Major League Baseball relief pitcher who played for the Atlanta Braves and other teams.”
Dave Mustaine – July 26
“On the Thursday July 25th edition of the Alex Jones Show, Alex airs an interview he recorded this past weekend with American virtuoso guitarist and legendary lead vocalist for the almost three-decade strong, highly influential thrash-metal band Megadeth, Dave Mustaine.”
Charlie Daniels – July 20
“Alex also welcomes back to the show to country and southern rock music legend Charlie Daniels.”
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Just a few of my favorite things…
In which I remember a few of my favorite things about my not-so-favorite haunt , which seems touchingly unwilling to forget me, since it never lets a week go by without some fresh idiocy intended to injure me in small ways or great, if not directly, then via proxy.
What are my favorite things about a certain internet financial newsletter company?
Name-dropping poseurs and witless stool-pigeons,
Pumped-and-dumped metals and warmed-over cribbings,
Quick process service that’s secret and stings,
These are a few of my favorite things!
When my blog bites, when your sleaze stinks
When I’m feeling sad,
I simply remember
my favorite things
and then I don’t feel so bad!
One of those favorite things is an email (see below) from former Agora senior executive and classical swordsman, Christoph Amberger, describing how his perfectly libertarian blog GreenLaserReview was shut down last year using an illegitimate expansion of a separation agreement.
Surely there’s no violation of the Non-Aggression Principle in truthful speech is there, especially when libertarians defend even untruthful libel?
Originally affecting only a subsidiary, the agreement was expanded suddenly to prohibit any commentary on any part of the company or its personnel.
And for good measure, Mr. Amberger’s name and bio were to be taken off my website, lest they provide me with any credibility in regard to my own assertions.
He was, so he told me, forbidden to discuss anything about the company and its history, nor any details, past, present, and future, with me; whether relating to the public interest, community safety, criminal or civil investigation, my personal safety, or any related matters, past, present, or future.
Or something like that. At least, so he told me.
As for his own past history there, that seems to have been as completely wiped out as a dissident in Soviet Russia.
I guess that’s what Tom Woods meant when he said corporations respond only to price-signals and aren’t centrally managed in any way.
You forgot about judicial and legal corruption, Tom.
All libertarians forget that their “voluntary contracts” are enforced by the government via the courts, which, last I looked, were among the most corrupt and tyrannical institutions in the country, and by the lawyers, whose reputation as professional whores is only exceeded by..um..that of stock-touts.
From: Secret Archives PressMore Tolstoy anyone?
Date:Thu, April 28, 2011 7:52 pm
To: lilarajiva
Just in case you still have doubts about my “links” to Agora. They just served me with a Breach of Separation Agreement threatening to sue me for $3.9 mill. unless I removed any reference to them, their subsidiaries, and employees from my site.
Christoph
Seriously, though, a little Roth…er…Red goes much better with an entree of “libertarian” hogwash…
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http://mindbodypolitic.com/2012/08/24/paul-lehrman-connection-meaningless-says-libertarian-gold-site/
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Paul-Lehrman Connection Meaningless, Says Daily Bell (Corrections Added)
Update: Subsequent to my posting this, the Agora disinfo agent/troll/paid basher Ryals reposts Amberger’s comments to him (rather than Amberger’s blog posts about Agora), simultaneously discrediting and neutralizing Amberger by an unsubstantiated smear (Nazi Stasi), just as he posts any substantial criticism of Agora, ALWAYS with slurs about the critics and always with OLD NEWS about Agora, usually attributing criminal behavior to the critics, for which he gives not a shred of proof.
His response fails to mention the people who really are responsible for Agora’s marketing and selling today - Myles Norin (CEO), Matthew Turner (counsel), Addison Wiggin (chief of Agora Financial, its flagship subsidiary, and also heavily involved in Oxford Group, Michael Masterson (Mark Ford), Byron King, Alexander Greene, Mike Ward, Julia Guth, and many others, whose border-line promotions were all deconstructed by Christoph Amberger. Instead, Ryals tries to discredit Amberger’s whistle-blowing. No question Ryals has some kind of tie to Agora.
To make things clearer, Agora is not solely Bonner’s company but owned by several people, some of whom no doubt have axes to grind with others. Bonner himself might have enemies within the company, for partisan, financial or personal reasons.
Notice how Ryals only focuses on the Republicans in the group, like Bonner, presumably Casey, and Robert Bauman, who specializes in the admirable field of asset protection. Now, unlike the state-worshipping fraud Ryals, I would love to believe Bob Bauman is a really good asset protector (aka money-launderer), but, alas, if he is not what he seems (and I haven’t seen anything concrete to suggest that), he is much more likely to be an IRS/DOJ honey-pot, if I know how these things work.
That’s what I believe large parts of the asset-protection racket really is about, when it’s not about espionage and government-related money-laundering.
That might include the over-hyped Simon Black, who also seems to be a part of the LRC-Agora crew and constantly tells people that Singapore is a great place for financial security, when anyone who even researches the matter in a skimpy way will figure out that Singapore is crawling with Mossad and CIA.
NWO resistance indeed.
Anyone boosting simplistic asset protection, or simplistic encryption like Tor (heavens!) is simply pushing people into US govt supervised encryption. But, then, maybe that’s the idea.
ORIGINAL POST
The Daily Bell argues that the Ron Paul-Lewis Lehrman connection is meaningless (links to follow):
“Worse, in our humble opinion, whenever such issues arise these days, the dissemblers come out in force to attack the world’s only apparently honest politician, US Congressman Ron Paul, for working with Lewis Lehrman.
It is true that when Ron Paul and Lewis Lehrman served (with many others) on a US Gold Commission during the Reagan years they wrote a minority report recommending a return to some sort of gold standard.But Ron Paul certainly didn’t seek Lehrman out to write the report. He wrote it with Lehrman because Lehrman was on the committee. Ron Paul, of course, went on to call for a regime of competing currencies, which is something we’re partial to.”
Comment:
This would be a whole lot more credible if The Daily Bell itself didn’t call out people on just as tenuous evidence, in much more black and white terms than I have ever done.
It also doesn’t help that the Bell dismisses critics of Paul as dissemblers.
Why?
What’s wrong with criticizing a politician who’s set up as the sole spokesman for libertarian issues?
Why would anti-state capitalists focus on a politician as their spokesman, in the first place?
What sense does that make?
Especially, when just a few days ago, the Bell raised no objection at all, when, in an interview on their site, Gerald Celente claimed Paul was “not a fighter” and had failed because he was not a fighter.
If that is the opinion of Paul’s friends, isn’t it natural that people on the paper-money team or outside the binary altogether (like me) would reach even more devastating conclusions?
I don’t believe most Paul critics are dissembling. I think they are genuinely disappointed and suspicious. I am too.
Three. The Bell loses credibility when it claims Paul is the “only honest politician in the world.”
That’s pure hyperbole.
I’m sure the Daily Bell doesn’t know “all the politicians in the world.” And Paul isn’t perfectly clean. There was rampant nepotism during his campaign. There was the alleged double-billing. There were other mis-steps.
They might all be minor. And the Lehrman connection might be innocuous too, but it’s not the only troubling thing that comes to mind.
Which brings me to my fourth point.
Paul has a long-standing relationship via Murray Rothbard with Agora Inc. and its founder, James Dale Davidson, about which I blogged in July (the first person to pull that little nugget up, I do believe….although, as soon as I say that, I’m sure a dozen quicky sites will pop up with the same information on them).
This is a very troubling connection, in my opinion.
The Agora Inc. network has ties to Rockefeller-related groups, like the Peterson Institute. I blogged about that in 2009, January.
Now, I myself have once cited research produced by the Peterson.
[It's in my piece on Krugman, at LRC, and the researcher was Anders Aslund, who was one of the advocates of privatization in the Soviet Union. Aslund was wrong about that, although not the only one wrong, and certainly not the main one.]
But I post research from all over the place, and that is not an endorsement of the authors’ other works or of the websites carrying the research.
Agora’s ties to the Peterson Institute, however, are a bit more relevant and important than my posting or quoting someone once, casually.
The I.O.U.S.A film (a spin-off from Agora’ “Empire of Debt,” Wiley, 2005) was promoted nationally by the Peterson Institute. Some of the positions Agora supports are consonant with Pete Peterson’s interests, although I do believe most people at Agora are anti-state libertarians, whereas Peterson is no more than a crony capitalist.
This is what I wrote in my 2009 blog post about the Peterson connection:
“Assembling this bipartisan group of prominent enablers/theorists of empire over the last twenty years lets IOUSA claim it goes beyond partisanship. In reality it does no such thing. Omitting a context for its arguments, the film actually lends itself to being interpreted in ways quite contradictory to the tenor of the original work. At times it even subverts the book thoroughly.
Agora also promotes things like “peak oil,” which I don’t find persuasive, being a long-time believer in the abiotic origin of oil.
IOUSA lends itself to a very anti-libertarian, statist moralizing of the debt issue: thus, spendthrift population needs to be forced to save by government. Now that really alarms me. Watch out - forced savings accounts ahead!”
These positions are accompanied by promotions throughout its marketing network from which it stands to gain financially, either directly or indirectly.
That surely calls into question the credibility of the positions of anyone deeply connected to them.
Is Paul connected to them in a serious way?
{Added, August 25: Obviously, Agora has also supported anti-war positions that have not won it popularity, so I should give them credit for that and I do.
But I also recognize that the “anti-war” position has a place in the permissible range of public opinion, as long as on crucial issues and events antiwar advocates develop laryngitis. This strategy, devised by the intelligence services, ensures that there is “cognitive diversity” among critics of war and the police state that gives the appearance of a “liberal” political culture, while actually permitting them little impact. It siphons off the energy, time, money, and ambition of perhaps 95% of activists and effectively marginalizes the rest. Zahir Ebrahim has written extensively about this at his depressing but honest website, Project HumanBeingsFirst.]
Besides the tie-in to the establishment via Peterson/Rockefeller and besides the commercial imperative which undermines the sincerity of its positions, there are also Rothschild connections to Agora.
First, Rothschild interests are now directly connected to Rockefeller interests, by a recent merger (which I’ve blogged a couple of times).
Second, there are also direct connections between the Rothschilds and Agora.
I wasn’t sure about some of those, a couple of years ago.
In fact, I thought the allegation that Agora was a Rothschild front was only innuendo concocted at Executive Intelligence Review by ex-Larouchite, Bill Engdahl, who often doesn’t cite his sources and has once picked up leads from me without acknowledgement, likely because I come from the right
That’s why, even though I was disillusioned with Ron Paul by then, I didn’t place much stock in the Engdahl charge, especially when it was picked up on Jennifer Lake’s blog (see this blog post of March 10 2010) and then embellished with a lot of strange errors. I felt the whole thing had to be some kind of disinformation. I certainly didn’t make any connection to Paul. I thought it was a ploy to muddy more concrete legal issues. One can’t be prosecuted for being a Rothschild front, after all, but one can discredit one’s detractors by posing as one, since the whole Rothschild conspiracy is beyond the pale for mainstream analysts and writers. In fact, Lake’s silly comments, which I was forced to address because they libeled me, actually damaged the very thing she - with typical arrogance - thought she was assisting - the public interest. In short, she forced me to state things that tipped off the very people she claimed I was covering for.
That’s why I even thought Agora itself was encouraging the story, a view shared by at least one other credible journalist. For the same reason, I suspect that Tony Ryals, the cyberbully behind all the negative postings about me, isn’t half as insane as he pretends to be. In fact, I think he has indirect ties to Agora himself, since he never mentions the people there who have actual legal responsibility there, like CEO Myles Norin, or their attorney, Matt Turner, or Agora Financial chief, Addison Wiggin, or some of their star traders, like Alan Knuckman.
[Sept 6 - this morning, I checked to find that Ryals' posts referencing these comments of mine and thus referencing these individuals had been deleted or "disappeared." Of course, just to make me a liar, they might pop back. But it's interesting that it's impossible to stop Ryals's libels, when it's someone like me (or others, who aren't in charge at Agora or whose crimes, if they committed any, are beyond the statute of limitations, but it's easy enough to get him to remove comments about the people still there.]
Funnier still, Ryals never mentions a former senior employee, Christoph Amberger, whose blog about the company’s shenanigans (cons would be a better word from what I read) was shut down in 2011. Reportedly, this was after he was paid to keep his silence, that is, hold to a non-disclosure agreement under threat of litigation. All traces of his blog about the company’s marketing deceptions (GreenLaserReviews) were wiped off the net in a matter of days.
Instead of mentioning all this, Ryals, who even corresponded with Amberger (who smacked him down for the troll he is) waffles on about Davidson, who is safely beyond reach of prosecution, and, in any case, seems to have more than paid for any sins by his investigations into the Clinton mafia and his insights into the manipulation of the stock markets; Bonner, who probably has no legal liability, as he’s not an officer of the company, and is too wealthy, too cautious, too smart, and too well-connected to get into trouble anyway; and Stansberry, who is already damaged goods and unlikely to get hurt any worse by innuendo.
But leaving aside intriguing theories about the cyber-underworld in which Ryals and his rants reside, I’m still not sure what the Rothschild connections to Agora really amount to. The best I can say is I’m much more willing to believe some people there profit from them.
Why did it take me so long to get to that point?
Because it’s only recently (over the last year) that I’ve had the time to dig around and find any kind of credible accounting of how the Rothschild family might be the financial juggernaut they are said to be on conspiracy sites.
[I got there by adding material posted at Project Humanbeingsfirst to my own research into BCCI (via Engdahl, Skolnik, DeepBlackLies, Yamaguchi.com, Forbes.com, LBMA website and other material.]
Now that I’ve come to think the whole “Rothschild” conspiracy is something more than fiction, I’ve also begun to look at Ron Paul with a more critical eye.
So that’s where I come from on that.
Now, for my own credibility on the subject, given that I too have a connection to Agora.
This is what I have to say.
Except for the attacks following my pieces on Assange (by an attention-seeking Assange groupie, Tom Usher at RealLiberalChristian) and a legal threat at DailyBell by another fanboy and blatant troll, calling himself Al Kyder, and a couple of other things), one hundred percent of the negative posts about me on the net stem from this one supposedly crazy person, who seems to have an indirect connection to Agora.
And all the rest of the monitoring/hacking I’ve experienced stem from my fall-out with Agora too.
What was the monitoring/hacking about? Simple.
In 2008, I gave whatever information I had about certain sensitive issues to responsible journalists and investigators.
There you have it. That’s why their campaign against me didn’t end with the resolution of my IP issues with the company. In fact, it’s the reason why the IP issue keeps festering.
Who likes to be joined at the hip to someone who’s outed them? Who likes to know that someone knows what they are capable of?
That is why they are so bent on isolating me, stirring up third parties against me, and minimizing my influence in every way possible.
Since then, I’ve been warned by good people to “leave it alone” or possibly become even more of a target. And that’s what I’ve tried to do, but it’s not because I’m interested in covering up anything for anyone.
It’s because I see no reason to second-guess the integrity, good faith, and sound judgment of what I’ve been told but take it as solid advice from people who know better than me. And it’s because I believe more evil than good will come from ignoring that advice.
Especially as there’s another layer of complexity to this story.
Agora Inc. was also the last business association of former CIA director, William Colby, who seemingly committed suicide some twenty years ago.
I say seemingly, because the suicide theory has been peddled only recently, and only by one of Colby’s sons. No one else believes it and there’s not much evidence for it.
Thus far, the official story has been that it was an accident.
That sounds just as unlikely to me, as I blogged earlier.
Note: Ryals not only filched the Davidson-Chomsky-Rothbard connection from my blog (posted on July 20), as well as the information about Rees-Mogg’s and Colby’s Le Cercle and Pilgrim connections (which I got by discovering and researching the ISGP.EU site in detail),** he failed to link the post and then tried to pretend that I was covering up something about the Colby killing, when I’d blogged about it as a murder, long ago, in 2010, and before that, in 2009. In fact, I’d been researching Mockingbird, MKUltra, mind-control, and sex-trauma as early as 2004, for my first book, where I have a couple of chapters on the material.
In 2005 I wrote a piece about former CIA director Stansfield Turner and Operation Gladio. It was around then that I also first heard about about Colby.
The fact that I ended up in the company where Colby once worked is one of those strange coincidences that “intention” pulls out of the universe.
And, far from covering up any of this, I’ve blogged repeatedly about it.
For instance, here’s my comment on an interview of Rees-Mogg there:
Posted by Lila Rajiva on 06/05/10 11:59 AM
It always seemed plausible to me that Colby’s death was a political assassination, given his involvement in Operation Phoenix and Project Mockingbird, his testimony at the Church Committee hearings, his interest in the Nebraska pedophile ring, and his work for the intelligence-affiliated Nugan Hand bank (which had ties to BCCI).
Sorry. Colby was Cercle and apparently also Opus Dei …
Posted by Lila Rajiva on 06/05/10 11:55 AM
Rees-Mogg is reportedly a member of Le Cercle and the Pilgrim’s Society, as well as the exclusive Roxburghe club - supposedly a very influential part of the Anglo-American establishment. He was backed by speculator and corporate raider, James Goldsmith, relative and close associate of the Rothschilds.
Allegations are made on the left that Rees-Mogg is closely associated with Richard Mellon Scaife. Rees-Mogg is also closely tied to James Davidson, Bill Bonner, and Agora, through the Strategic Investment newsletter and other publications.
Through SI, he’s also linked to William Colby, ex CIA chief, also a Pilgrim Society member, if I’m not mistaken.
By link, I just mean there exists a relationship. It’s by no means clear how that actually plays out, if at all.
Colby was murdered (?) early 1990s. My best guess is it was related to the opening of CIA files with the Church Committee (much earlier)….and inter departmental fighting that resulted; there’s also a connection to a White House- related paedophilia scandal in Nebraska that got hushed up in a hurry. Some have linked that scandal to CIA mind-control operations but I haven’t seen anything conclusive about it. “
I learned about Le Cercle and the Pilgrim’s Circle from ISGP.eu, and passed that onto the Bell, as well.
I posted the link to ISGP.eu at the Bell below a July 8, 2010 article
[Note: ISGP eu was up when I posted the link, but googling for it today, I find that the domain is for sale and I find a post at Cryptogon, dating back to January of the same year (2010), saying that the site had disappeared, but that the writer at Cryptogon had saved the information from the google cache in the form of a zip file. However the link he had posted didn't open to the ISGP.eu file at all. He claimed he had given it to Wikileaks for safe-keeping. I later found it at wikispooks.]Posted by Lila Rajiva on 07/09/10 12:28 PM
Sorry. Two careless mistakes. @John Treichler (not Treicher, as posted before).
The site is the Institute for the Study of Globalization and Covert Politics (ISGP.eu not ISGPU, as I wrote in a hurry). Written from a very left-wing perspective. Meticulously compiled.
So, that’s my explanation of why the Bell’s dismissal of the Lehrman link isn’t quite enough; why there are other reasons to worry about Paul, such as his connections to Agora; why I was slow to start looking at Paul critically; what Agora’s ties to the Rothschilds might be; and what my connection to the whole business amounts to.
There’s one other thing. The Bell is also a part of the same Agora network to which Paul seems to have ties.
You won’t hear that from them, though. It’s one of those little omissions that are troubling, like the repositioning and revisionism that goes on on the site, at times.
For instance, in the same piece on the Lehrman tie, Wile writes that he knew Assange was disinformation right away.
Not so. He got that from me (perhaps the only rightist non-neocon to criticize Assange) and from Wayne Madsen and Bill Engdahl (both on the left).
Neither of those two, by the way, assembled nearly as comprehensive a critique of Wikileaks as I did.
And I know that research had an impact, because the Guardian ran a piece derived from it shortly after (picking up on the John Shipton lead) and an Australian academic wrote a paper repositioning the cypherpunk association (deconstructed in my pieces) into a narrative more favorable to their man.
Wile relied on that research, as well as material on Gordon Duff’s site, in changing his opinion. Then he exaggerated and ended up with a kind of parody of my criticism of Assange.
This he tends to do, which allows an opening to people like Fed regulator, William Black, whom Wile once made the mistake of criticizing. Black reacted with a petty and surprisingly personal attack, but, when you distort people’s positions, you have to expect vehement reactions.
Wile’s subtle perception management has even caught the attention of many contributors to the Bell, including pro-Paulian goldbugs like Bionic Mosquito and Leonardo Pisano, as well as paper-money anti-Paulians like FauxCapitalist and Memehunter.
Why does he do it? Most likely as a way for the site to stay viable on the net, while conspiracy mongering, or perhaps, as a way to manage the reactions of readers and associates. Nothing wrong with that, but, still, it’s unsettling and tends to make people suspicious.
It’s why I stopped posting on their forum, despite my gratitude to them. for providing a useful and unusual venue for discussions.
I also do respect Wile’s courage in tackling material people usually avoid for fear of losing their credibility.
So the Bell does get a lot of props from me for bravery and unique content, yes, but I also see them as compromised by their financial ties. The same goes for some other libertarian sites I still read.
Other pluses: Wile is almost always polite and he is not as Eurocentric in his thinking as some others.
I should add that I’m not one of those who think he’s running a limited hang-out himself. Or, at least, he is doing it less than most.
Some final thoughts:
First, about Colby and Agora.
Colby had so many enemies that it would be hard to narrow down who murdered him, if he was murdered, without a lot more evidence being uncovered. But no one in officialdom or intelligence is likely to want to do that. And only a fool or a martyr would venture into that territory alone.
About the Agora connection (and, through them, to Paul):
Colby’s name appeared on Agora’s long-running Strategic Investments newsletter, with which the Rothschild-related Rees Mogg is/was affiliated, along with long-time anti-tax advocate, electronic counterfeiting (anti-Naked Short Selling) critic, and Forbes/Scaife protege, James Dale Davidson.
Davidson, Rothbard, and Chomsky all worked together in the 1970s, in antiwar activism, which by itself means little or nothing. Many ideological foes make common cause on single issues.
But, it was not “by itself,” as the evidence shows.
At least one of Paul’s writers (the guy who wrote the race realist pamphlets) is directly tied to Agora.
Paul himself has been incessantly promoted by Agora, until very recently, when affiliates and associates began promoting a few anti-Paul libertarians, like Wendy McElroy, N. Stephen Kinsella, and even Stephan Molyneux, who appeared briefly on the Doug Casey website, and then was pushed out.
It was also from Agora Inc. that I first heard of Ron Paul.
Casey, like Jeff Berwick and what looks like a majority of the hard-money community, is himself closely tied to the Agora network by business affiliation.
So also, as I said earlier, the Daily Bell, with its multiple banking and gold community associations.
These ties may or may not mean anything nefarious, but they would certainly limit what the Bell, or any other libertarian writer in this circle, would be willing or able to say publicly.
Which means I really can’t trust someone in that circle to be too forthcoming about Paul, since they all share business networks.
That is simply common-sense.
Even I have had a hard time writing about Agora’s network, even though all I did was write and do some research there, and the only person I really worked with was Bill Bonner.
To put it as simply as possible for all the trolls who still can’t read my actual words, let alone between my words:
It is difficult to write critically about people with whom you have had personal and professional relationships; who have accessed your personal and business records (illegally).
It is even more difficult when their employees work and live close to where you work and live and they are native-born, while you are an immigrant.
It becomes impossible when the political and economic context is a multi-front global military and economic war, in which your motherland is also involved, and not always as an ally; when the legal and media environment of your adopted country is totalitarian; when your family lives abroad and you are self-employed and modestly well-off, while they have tens of millions of dollars behind them, are connected to intelligence and financial elites, have thousands, if not millions, of subscribers and friends to whom they can outsource their efforts, and when they are marketing, financial, and political players on a global scale.
If that is true of me, how much more is it true of the hard-money community, which is completely encompassed by the Agora network?
I don’t expect any of them to pipe up with anything but support for Ron Paul. They will alienate their business associates, otherwise.
I hope that explains why I don’t think the Bell’s dismissal of the Lehrman tie is sufficient by itself.
I say this as someone who took a long time to open their eyes about Paul.
Which person likes to think they’ve been had? Or, that establishment critics mightn’t be entirely off-base in their criticism of Paul?
As far back as 2008, I heard some mutterings from loyal fans of Paul but said nothing, hoping it was all minor or a mistake.
I even took the part of the LRC crowd against the WSJ in a lengthy blog post.
[As far as that WSJ incident goes, I still stand by the piece ]
In 2010 I spoke up about my dissatisfaction with Paul’s positions at the Daily Bell forum.
I didn’t want to, because I knew Paul supporters would get annoyed by it, but credibility is very important to anyone writing about politics. It should be more important than pleasing the team.
Then, a few people who’ve wanted to discredit me for supporting libertarian positions(albeit nuanced and rather more conservative ones than that of the anarcho-caps), or for criticizing Assange (albeit in a most circumspect and balanced way than his other detractors), or for deconstructing Ron Paul and his libertarian promoters (albeit factually and with respect), have tried to claim that I’m covering up for this or that person.
The truth is exactly the opposite. I’ve been libeled, monitored, and undermined covertly, almost continuously since 2007. I’ve also been plagiarized repeatedly and marginalized.
I don’t really believe the government was behind any of that, except maybe at a very low level, in so far as some petty operatives might have been employed by my enemies to do the dirty work.
So, there is no cover up on my part. Or paranoia. What I say is not a lie. It’s not propaganda. It’s not a smear or anything but the most truth it is possible, helpful, and advisable for anyone in my position to speak.
For the umpteenth time, I’m not RAW, nor CIA, nor Jihadi, nor Hindu fascist. I’m just a writer, with a lot of interests, an eclectic background, and too much curiosity and impetuosity for her own good.
It was a meaningful synchronicity that I got involved in the whole business. I don’t say that to promote myself, create a mystery, or confuse the situation. I say it because that is really how it happened.
There are mysteries of “intention,” “attraction,” and the cycles of time. And they have nothing to do with “dissembling”, “disinformation,” or “RAW”.
The innuendos by Jennifer Lake, Tony Ryals, and Tom Usher are simply smears, even if they are understandable smears.
There really are more things in earth and heaven, Horatio…
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