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According to an appendix to Sedensky's summary, Adam lanza committed suicide in Room 10 of SHES by reaching over his shoulder and behind his back while holding a full-size handgun in a forward firing position. The gun's muzzle was supposedly pointed sharply upward and positioned 13-14 inches below the apex of his skull, facing almost directly forward. Aside from the seeming impossibility of this feat (if anyone has any information about Lanza having been a quadruple-jointed contortionist with extraordinarily long limbs, please provide it), it is also notable that Lanza supposedly faced directly toward what is termed the "east wall" of Room 10 when discharging the fatal round. This means that the blood and tissue spatter resulting from his having blown his brains out with a high-power handgun at point blank range would have to be distributed over a broad area to the east of his body. It also indicates that Lanza's body would have been facing east as it came to rest on the floor, and the gun he used to inflict his head wound would necessarily have recoiled backward, to the "west" of his body.
Yet, look at the scene shown in the video linked below. At 0:37 of this video the scene of Adam Lanza's supposed suicide is shown (reportedly derived from photo 161 of 760 in the final report's Walkley photos). Notice how there is no appreciable blood or tissue spatter visible to the "east" of what is apparently depicted as Lanza's body. Also note how Lanza's body seems to be curled and facing the "WEST" wall of the room, while the purported instrument of death is lying to the "east" of his body.
All of this is completely opposite of what the appendices provided to Sedensky's summary by scene investigators require. What accounts for these blatant, demonstrable contradictions and inconsistencies? Were the crime scene investigators horrendously incompetent and unreliable, with the same relative proficiency and task acumen as trained baboons? Or, was the crime scene staged? Alternatively, was there no real crime scene, and the images supposedly captured in the Walkley file faked? If the crime scene was staged, were they merely sloppy in their efforts, or did they intentionally make the scene patently incredible and unbelievable in order to hasten the coming of O'Brien's denouement?
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Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
Dont forget he was handcuffed as well.
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Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
According to an appendix to Sedensky's summary, Adam lanza committed suicide in Room 10 of SHES by reaching over his shoulder and behind his back while holding a full-size handgun in a forward firing position. The gun's muzzle was supposedly pointed sharply upward and positioned 13-14 inches below the apex of his skull, facing almost directly forward. Aside from the seeming impossibility of this feat (if anyone has any information about Lanza having been a quadruple-jointed contortionist with extraordinarily long limbs, please provide it)
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 So Adam was shot in the back of the head?
This is the first I've heard of that.
Wow.
Yes. According to the appendices to Sedensky's summary, Lanza shot himself in the lower right rear portion of his head. He was purportedly wearing boots that placed the apex of his cranium 73-74 inches off the ground, and the muzzle height was stated to be approximately 60 inches off the ground. The point data disclosed in the report indicates that the path of the bullet ascended nearly directly forward through his head, with a left lateral deviation of <8 48="" a="" agree="" and="" angle="" approximately="" being="" believe="" br="" bullet="" caused="" degrees.="" degrees="" do="" especially="" exit="" for="" front="" full-size="" glock.="" his="" human="" i="" is="" it="" not="" of="" ow="" personally="" portion="" possible="" purportedly="" self-inflict="" sentiment:="" sharp="" skull.="" such="" that="" the="" this="" to="" upper="" upward="" wholeheartedly="" with="" wound="" your="">
I can only wonder why they are tempting us toward the conclusion that the Sandy Hook gunman was executed. Is it a way to direct the attention of those who are suspicious of the event to the possibility that Lanza was real, thinking that if we feel we are on to the execution of a actual gunman we will begin to believe that the event actually occurred? Is it an implicit signal that the Patsy Theory is valid?
Ow. Head hurts.
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Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
... Notice how there is no appreciable blood or tissue spatter visible to the "east" of what is apparently depicted as Lanza's body. Also note how Lanza's body seems to be curled and facing the "WEST" wall of the room, while the purported instrument of death is lying to the "east" of his body...
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 [link to www.youtube.com] What body curled? Anything in the report saying that dark object seen in room 10 next to the hand gun was his body? With so much CONTENT REDACTED seems strange for them to show a body or even a piece of a body. I just don't see that as being a body be it hoax or not. According to the sworn deposition and report of CSP/DPS Det. Karoline Keith, attached to Sedensky's summary as an appendix, the object lying approximately 2' 8" to the left of the gun is the shooter's body. If it is your point that no purport from either the summary or report may be taken seriously, then we are in agreement. Admittedly, the object shown in this photo/video seems to lie less than 32 inches to the left of the handgun, but I cannot imagine what else it is supposed to be, nor can I fathom how an official police report would not identify and characterize another object so large lying between the body and the handgun. The fact remains that the scene as depicted/staged requires a body to be lying somewhere in the vicinity of the dark object we are discussing. Please note my deliberate use of the terms "apparently" and "seems" in the above entry, which clearly signal the fact that I am not making a definitive statement. If you have other thoughts or observations regarding the identity of this object or the location of Lanza's body, I would be glad to read them. However, the main observation that I offered, that there would have to be an enormous amount of blood/bone/tissue spatter visible in this frame (which there is not). Further, both the report and this frame require that a handgun held precariously behind a shooter's back had recoiled forward to land somewhere to the right of that shooter's body. Once again, if you have any further thoughts or illuminations on this I would be glad to read them. The only other picture I have found showing a/the body is from CFS 1200704597 > 00025240.pdf > Page 9 I think the blob near the gun is the ass of the body and it's positioning is such that the body is resting on its right side. |
Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
... Notice how there is no appreciable blood or tissue spatter visible to the "east" of what is apparently depicted as Lanza's body. Also note how Lanza's body seems to be curled and facing the "WEST" wall of the room, while the purported instrument of death is lying to the "east" of his body...
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 [link to www.youtube.com]
What body curled? Anything in the report saying that dark object seen in room 10 next to the hand gun was his body? With so much CONTENT REDACTED seems strange for them to show a body or even a piece of a body. I just don't see that as being a body be it hoax or not.
According to the sworn deposition and report of CSP/DPS Det. Karoline Keith, attached to Sedensky's summary as an appendix, the object lying approximately 2' 8" to the left of the gun is the shooter's body. If it is your point that no purport from either the summary or report may be taken seriously, then we are in agreement. Admittedly, the object shown in this photo/video seems to lie less than 32 inches to the left of the handgun, but I cannot imagine what else it is supposed to be, nor can I fathom how an official police report would not identify and characterize another object so large lying between the body and the handgun. The fact remains that the scene as depicted/staged requires a body to be lying somewhere in the vicinity of the dark object we are discussing.
Please note my deliberate use of the terms "apparently" and "seems" in the above entry, which clearly signal the fact that I am not making a definitive statement. If you have other thoughts or observations regarding the identity of this object or the location of Lanza's body, I would be glad to read them. However, the main observation that I offered, that there would have to be an enormous amount of blood/bone/tissue spatter visible in this frame (which there is not). Further, both the report and this frame require that a handgun held precariously behind a shooter's back had recoiled forward to land somewhere to the right of that shooter's body. Once again, if you have any further thoughts or illuminations on this I would be glad to read them.
The only other picture I have found showing a/the body is from CFS 1200704597 > 00025240.pdf > Page 9
I think the blob near the gun is the ass of the body and it's positioning is such that the body is resting on its right side.
It also looks like the sole of his his is at the end of the butt if the gun grip.
Could he have been on his knees? Hands behind head?
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Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
The police audio reflects officers yelling "CLEAR!" and "We have one suspect down!" followed a few seconds later by "CLEAR!" and "We have a suspect down."
Quoting: Anonymous Coward 50560294 The first of these happens at 9:51:31, exactly when officers charge Room 10 (and officer Lenny Penna, in the hallway, says he hears a gunshot and assumes his guys shot
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Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
So I believe the claim that the shooter was lying dead in that room starting at 9:40 a.m. is a fallacy.
Either that, or NPD and CSP are going to need to explain who they shot at 9:51:31, if it wasn't Adam Lanza.
Either that, or NPD and CSP are going to need to explain who they shot at 9:51:31, if it wasn't Adam Lanza.
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Re: Sandy Hook - The Scene of "Adam Lanza's Suicide"
... Notice how there is no appreciable blood or tissue spatter visible to the "east" of what is apparently depicted as Lanza's body. Also note how Lanza's body seems to be curled and facing the "WEST" wall of the room, while the purported instrument of death is lying to the "east" of his body...
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Quoting: Anonymous Coward 17586504 [link to www.youtube.com]
What body curled? Anything in the report saying that dark object seen in room 10 next to the hand gun was his body? With so much CONTENT REDACTED seems strange for them to show a body or even a piece of a body. I just don't see that as being a body be it hoax or not.
According to the sworn deposition and report of CSP/DPS Det. Karoline Keith, attached to Sedensky's summary as an appendix, the object lying approximately 2' 8" to the left of the gun is the shooter's body. If it is your point that no purport from either the summary or report may be taken seriously, then we are in agreement. Admittedly, the object shown in this photo/video seems to lie less than 32 inches to the left of the handgun, but I cannot imagine what else it is supposed to be, nor can I fathom how an official police report would not identify and characterize another object so large lying between the body and the handgun. The fact remains that the scene as depicted/staged requires a body to be lying somewhere in the vicinity of the dark object we are discussing.
Please note my deliberate use of the terms "apparently" and "seems" in the above entry, which clearly signal the fact that I am not making a definitive statement. If you have other thoughts or observations regarding the identity of this object or the location of Lanza's body, I would be glad to read them. However, the main observation that I offered, that there would have to be an enormous amount of blood/bone/tissue spatter visible in this frame (which there is not). Further, both the report and this frame require that a handgun held precariously behind a shooter's back had recoiled forward to land somewhere to the right of that shooter's body. Once again, if you have any further thoughts or illuminations on this I would be glad to read them.
The only other picture I have found showing a/the body is from CFS 1200704597 > 00025240.pdf > Page 9
I think the blob near the gun is the ass of the body and it's positioning is such that the body is resting on its right side.
I share your interpretation. This, coupled with other posters' assertions that Lanza was found curled into a fetal position, is what brings me to conclude that "Lanza's body seems to be [depicted as] curled and facing the "WEST" wall of the room, while the purported instrument of death is lying to the "EAST" of his body."
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